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  • Missed FT please fill me in

    I missed the final table had to go out. Could someone fill me in on what went down. And WHO IS TOM HAWK??? Never even seen his name. He must be one heck of a player or was he lucky? Well I had a great time playing TY PSO for putting on the event.

    Thief 21

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    Thief he just joined 5 days ago.

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    • #3
      he won his qual in a last chance tourney

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      • #4
        He must be one heck of a player or was he lucky?
        He was 1 of those.

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        • #5
          Can't be too good, saw em take middle pair bad kicker against top pair and snap off about a 300K pot and 10 minutes later bet a dry pot with 3 players left (one of em wasn't even there) to keep the all-in alive another round. May have been a little luck involved here somewhere along the line... I dunno.

          AZ

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          • #6
            Azhardballz said:
            May have been a little luck involved here somewhere along the line... I dunno.

            IMO:
            :idea: LUCK IS ALWAYS INVOLVED!

            I would like to add that perhaps some skill was also involved, after all he did WIN!!!! Not to mention, he beat out over 500+ PSO players and the only way I can look at that is THAT IS ONE HELL OF AN ACCOMBLISHMENT!!!

            Just my opinion you do not have to agree...

            BTW- wooooooohoooooooo Rio Rita wtg lady, I had you on my list for ones to watch out for and definite commpetition!
            Congrats to all the other winner's as well, and a special one to lion (I also had you on my list) well done!

            TOMHAWK, A big welcome to you as a new member of PSO and 'CONGRATS" on winning the Big One II. My Best Wishes on your future in Poker!! Outstanding...

            SANEIGY :arrow: whew now I can relax, Oh no Monday, Buschman, Me, Headsup Match, early, ohhhhhhhh man... :wink:

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            • #7
              Saneigy said:
              IMO:
              LUCK IS ALWAYS INVOLVED!
              Yes it is. But, IMO, the "luck" should be when your JJ survives the AK all-in, when your correct pot-odds call hits your nut flush draw, etc.....not "middle pair bad kicker against top pair" and get lucky, not dry-pot bluff out a player with three left and almost cost that player $k, not calling monstrously huge bets with 6 people left with j9o on a board of kjrag, etc.......

              If that's your concept of "skill" in poker, well.....'nuff said....

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              • #8
                keeping scarz in was a GOOD play, not a BAD play, because Rita was waiting for scarz to blind out, he made scarz(not a threat) richer and Rita(still playing, so a threat) poorer.

                also........if he thought there was a chance his jacks were good then why not gamble to double up, if you know how to work a big stack....which he clearly did.

                CLAY

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                • #9
                  Clay said:
                  if he thought there was a chance his jacks were good...
                  Why on god's green earth would he think that then? And considering that he made this same "bad" play at least twice previously (that I know of) and got lucky to hit on them too, I wonder. And if he really thought that his mid-pair mid-kicker was the top hand there, when freddieboy shoved all-in, then that's just not sufficient thinking. I think he made a bad crying call, and got lucky. Simple as that.

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                  • #10
                    bruno possible hand freddie could have
                    Kx (he is a big dog here)
                    QT (openend straight draw with 1 over card to his pair 3/2 favourite)
                    AQ,AT gut shot draw with 1 or 2 over cards (big favourite)
                    total bluff (possible in which case he is a favourite)

                    his play at the final table allthough some call poor due to the standards we are used to in PSO is what i have seen by about 80% of the players i have played with in my limited trips to a casino.


                    adding to that i liked his bet into the all in player (keep the other stacks short) and yes he got lucky and he made some bad choices and got lucky but so it alot of so called "good players" in the final stages of the tourny that became a lottery in the late stages
                    anyone remember noodles Q2s raise all in from 2utg
                    i know i made some questionable plays late in tourny but i can give good reasons for calling with AKo and raising all in with K9o and J8o(my final hand)

                    did tom hawks play ABC poker no he didnt, did he play good poker? well he won so it wasnt bad poker. did he get lucky? yes he did but if anyone can show me a player that has won a tourny with 550 players in that not once put there chips in when behind then i will show you somebody who got hit by the deck,is cheating with the dealer, or is just (geezer dont hit me) VERY VERY lucky.


                    i say congrats to all the money winners and wish them all luck when they get to play with there sponsorship money.
                    i would like to remind the newer members to the school that to help turn there sponsorship money into real money i hope they take time out to read thru the lessons (both by the pro's and noodles/aprils forum posts) before they hit the casinos.

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                    • #11
                      Robert Varkoni won the WSOP

                      I will win the WPO

                      Does it really matter? No...because they won and there is little that anyone can do about it. Luck will always play a role. Don't tell me that skill doesn't play any role in navigating such a huge field. BTW, I bet a dry pot with 22 when someone blinded all-in because I knew noone would call without a monster. My 22 was guaranteed to pick up at least a share of the blinds and antes if noone called. Yes, I broke the dry pot rule, but I was in desparate need of chips. Personally, I didn't care if that player busted out in 200th place...I needed chips. I have learned that the dry pot rule only applies if that is what is best for you as a player, not what is best for everyone else in the hand. I didn't see the hand because I was gone, but there are times when betting the dry pot is the best thing for you personally. And, if you consider all the dead money in the middle at the final table, why not bet and get it heads up, especially if you have a big stack?


                      BTW....please don't tell my shrink....for some absurd reason, she thinks that I am delusional.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ironside
                        i would like to remind the newer members to the school that to help turn there sponsorship money into real money i hope they take time out to read thru the lessons (both by the pro's and noodles/aprils forum posts) before they hit the casinos.
                        Ironside, I must strongly disagree with your advice on reading the forum posts and lessons before venturing forth. Doing so without practicing is a recipe for diaster IMO. For some one to tear apart and rebuild a game takes time and conscious effort as you must well know.

                        If you felt their game needed tweaking, then your advice is good. But I feel that you believe more than that is needed.

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                        • #13
                          My 22 was guaranteed to pick up at least a share of the blinds and antes if noone called. Yes, I broke the dry pot rule, but I was in desparate need of chips.
                          You broke no rule as it did not apply in the situation described.

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                          • #14
                            adding to that i liked his bet into the all in player (keep the other stacks short) and yes he got lucky and he made some bad choices and got lucky but so it alot of so called "good players" in the final stages of the tourny that became a lottery in the late stages
                            anyone remember noodles Q2s raise all in from 2utg
                            You think that was a bad choice? Interesting.

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                            • #15
                              BRUNO SAID:

                              Yes it is. But, IMO, the "luck" should be when your JJ survives the AK all-in, when your correct pot-odds call hits your nut flush draw, etc.....not "middle pair bad kicker against top pair" and get lucky, not dry-pot bluff out a player with three left and almost cost that player $k, not calling monstrously huge bets with 6 people left with j9o on a board of kjrag, etc.......

                              If that's your concept of "skill" in poker, well.....'nuff said....

                              It is to funny how you people twist the things others have said to fit your agenda!!! Also, I am pretty sure that skill was not one of the requirements and or rules to enter and play in The Big One II. There is a lot of bitterness in your post Bruno :twisted: :evil: at least that is what I am getting from it, why beat a dead horse its time to let it go and move on.

                              Bruno also said:

                              But, IMO, the "luck" should be when

                              Thats right, "In Your Opinion" ENUFF SAID...

                              SANEIGY :arrow: "TO EACH HIS OWN" YADDA YADDA YADDA!

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