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  • I am a 5 star ace?

    Hello a bit confused, pokerpro labs as me ranked at sngs as a 5 star ace........

  • #2
    Are you making money at them? other than that I would worry too much.

    Grade b
    I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

    13 Time Bracelet Winner


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Grade b View Post
      Are you making money at them? other than that I would worry too much.

      Grade b

      good point B, it is a nice confidence boost tho and is making me consider getting a bit more serious.

      Hows the nine mans sngs going?

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      • #4
        Nicely so far, Played around 20 and in the black, ran KK into AA twice within that set of 20 but what can you do!!

        Finding the 5/4 man bubble to be very interesting with a large number of players not really understanding gap theory.

        As i play more I have gotten used to the idea that I don't worry how I did after one game but did I make good decisions during that game.

        ie played a turbo game yesterday (only had an hour) and I shoved KJs on the bubble which given the table was a horrible decision for me was called by the Loose passive player with 77 and out in 4th. The other games I feel I played well and made correct decisions lots of stealing on the bubble (once players had shown they were reluctant to call and when I had the bigger stack)

        By the way do you know what they base those ratings on? ie what is it you are doing well to get the rating. worth knowing.
        I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

        13 Time Bracelet Winner


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        • #5
          Google "Humble Brag" and look up definition #2 at Urban Dictionary.

          Just sayin'.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Grade b View Post

            By the way do you know what they base those ratings on? ie what is it you are doing well to get the rating. worth knowing.
            Combination of things,mostly being profitable from what I can discern.

            BUT...(big but needed here...),much like the "ladder rankings" at OPR,there "cards and stars" rankings at this site are more than a little bit misleading.


            It doesn't account,in the overall ranking,for buy-in amount,though this IS addressed if one breaks down their rankings in each game format (.25 45 mans;.10 360's;.50 90 man's;$2.20 MTT's and so on and so forth).

            So you can have a situation where a player who is pumping out an overall,say +15% ROI at .10 and .25 buy-in levels be rated as 5* ACE and a player who is break even,maybe even a skosh below,at say $50/$60 levels be rated a 2* ACE,or something like that.

            No while it's POSSIBLE that the nanostakes player could be as solid as the break even higher stakes player I personally wouldn't put a lot of faith in that.

            Focus on what's tangible...ROI (most importantly),ITM %,position of outs (early,mid,late...),NOT on some arbitrary "ratings" system.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Grade b View Post
              Nicely so far, Played around 20 and in the black, ran KK into AA twice within that set of 20 but what can you do!!

              Finding the 5/4 man bubble to be very interesting with a large number of players not really understanding gap theory.

              As i play more I have gotten used to the idea that I don't worry how I did after one game but did I make good decisions during that game.

              ie played a turbo game yesterday (only had an hour) and I shoved KJs on the bubble which given the table was a horrible decision for me was called by the Loose passive player with 77 and out in 4th. The other games I feel I played well and made correct decisions lots of stealing on the bubble (once players had shown they were reluctant to call and when I had the bigger stack)

              By the way do you know what they base those ratings on? ie what is it you are doing well to get the rating. worth knowing.
              I have no idea what I am doing to get the rank, certainly as Moxie says, nothing ROI based for sure.

              I think it is based on buyin level and ITM, although the cards run the same at the higher buyins, but play is better I presume.

              My overall micro ranking is pretty good, so I suppose a 5 star ace does apply to my buyin level.

              It works out individual rankings for different MTTs,sngs etc now, so is good and usefull to summarise your own game, need to join to do this. It works out individual itm format for each game you play, i.e the big $2.20 I have good rating of something like 3/8 itms
              Last edited by holdemace486; Thu Dec 05, 2013, 03:36 AM.

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              • #8
                Hi all, long time no see, or chat should I say.
                After noticing I have ok stats in 2 game formats as well, I have stopped playing on cash tables. I sort of feel like an idiot after seeing a pretty solid start in SNG stats, I am 2k in the black over the past 3 months on another site playing 10NL, but have had serious tilt issues playing speed poker because the swings make you feel like puking. I have a tiny sample size compared to my bro, but for someone that closed there stars account for 180 days I don't think my stats are to bad, and once again I feel like an idiot for closing my stars account for so long.......What do you guys think of my short stats list?

                r / p/ buy in /ITM/ W/L
                $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] A/ 10/ $0.50 /30 /3/7
                $1.50 NL Hold'em [27 Players] A/ 47/ $1.50 /40 /19/28
                $3.50 NL Hold'em [27 Players] NA/ 1/ $3.50 /100 / 1/0
                $0.25 NL Hold'em [45 Players] NA/ 3/ $0.25 /33 / 1/2
                $0.02 NL Hold'em [990 Players, NA / 1/ $0.02 /100 /1/0

                I know I need to up my volume, as from today I am thinking of playing in like 8/12 games at the same time, any thoughts or advise on this? I tend to finish late a lot and I am worried about ending up HU in too many situations when it needs my full attention.

                btw...I am still trying to convert my bro to using a HUD, but he's still not having it, I think its a great tool to keep yourself in check, as I think your own table image counts more than anything.

                Cheers and GL at the tables. PP72
                Last edited by PokerPest72; Thu Dec 05, 2013, 01:12 PM. Reason: messy stats

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PokerPest72 View Post
                  Hi all, long time no see, or chat should I say.
                  After noticing I have ok stats in 2 game formats as well, I have stopped playing on cash tables. I sort of feel like an idiot after seeing a pretty solid start in SNG stats, I am 2k in the black over the past 3 months on another site playing 10NL, but have had serious tilt issues playing speed poker because the swings make you feel like puking. I have a tiny sample size compared to my bro, but for someone that closed there stars account for 180 days I don't think my stats are to bad, and once again I feel like an idiot for closing my stars account for so long.......What do you guys think of my short stats list?

                  r / p/ buy in /ITM/ W/L
                  $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] A/ 10/ $0.50 /30 /3/7
                  $1.50 NL Hold'em [27 Players] A/ 47/ $1.50 /40 /19/28
                  $3.50 NL Hold'em [27 Players] NA/ 1/ $3.50 /100 / 1/0
                  $0.25 NL Hold'em [45 Players] NA/ 3/ $0.25 /33 / 1/2
                  $0.02 NL Hold'em [990 Players, NA / 1/ $0.02 /100 /1/0

                  I know I need to up my volume, as from today I am thinking of playing in like 8/12 games at the same time, any thoughts or advise on this? I tend to finish late a lot and I am worried about ending up HU in too many situations when it needs my full attention.

                  btw...I am still trying to convert my bro to using a HUD, but he's still not having it, I think its a great tool to keep yourself in check, as I think your own table image counts more than anything.

                  Cheers and GL at the tables. PP72
                  LOL, never a HUD for me, never multitable, I keep it real lol....
                  Glad you come back BRo, keep on here and stop site jumping, none of the other sites have any value, not meaning monitary value either.<the other sites are rubbish>, luring us away with their roulette and fruit machines, stars is just poker.
                  Gl bro lets not tilt together ahahah.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PokerPest72 View Post
                    Hi all, long time no see, or chat should I say.
                    After noticing I have ok stats in 2 game formats as well, I have stopped playing on cash tables. I sort of feel like an idiot after seeing a pretty solid start in SNG stats, I am 2k in the black over the past 3 months on another site playing 10NL, but have had serious tilt issues playing speed poker because the swings make you feel like puking. I have a tiny sample size compared to my bro, but for someone that closed there stars account for 180 days I don't think my stats are to bad, and once again I feel like an idiot for closing my stars account for so long.......What do you guys think of my short stats list?

                    r / p/ buy in /ITM/ W/L
                    $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] A/ 10/ $0.50 /30 /3/7
                    $1.50 NL Hold'em [27 Players] A/ 47/ $1.50 /40 /19/28
                    $3.50 NL Hold'em [27 Players] NA/ 1/ $3.50 /100 / 1/0
                    $0.25 NL Hold'em [45 Players] NA/ 3/ $0.25 /33 / 1/2
                    $0.02 NL Hold'em [990 Players, NA / 1/ $0.02 /100 /1/0

                    I know I need to up my volume, as from today I am thinking of playing in like 8/12 games at the same time, any thoughts or advise on this? I tend to finish late a lot and I am worried about ending up HU in too many situations when it needs my full attention.

                    btw...I am still trying to convert my bro to using a HUD, but he's still not having it, I think its a great tool to keep yourself in check, as I think your own table image counts more than anything.

                    Cheers and GL at the tables. PP72

                    If you are going to multi table a few things come to mind,

                    to start with only add 1 new table at a time (so if you currently play 4 try 5 for a bit and see how that goes then add one more.)

                    Don't start all the games at once start say 4 then when you get to level 3 start 4 more then the bubble / final tables will not all fall at the same time.

                    If you are at final table of several and facing harder decisions don't start up new tables.

                    Good luck and see you at the tables

                    Grade b
                    I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

                    13 Time Bracelet Winner


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Grade b View Post
                      If you are going to multi table a few things come to mind, to start with only add 1 new table at a time (so if you currently play 4 try 5 for a bit and see how that goes then add one more.) Don't start all the games at once start say 4 then when you get to level 3 start 4 more then the bubble / final tables will not all fall at the same time.If you are at final table of several and facing harder decisions don't start up new tables. Good luck and see you at the tables Grade b
                      great advice B take note bro the highlighted bit.umbup:

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
                        LOL, never a HUD for me, never multitable, I keep it real lol....
                        Glad you come back BRo, keep on here and stop site jumping, none of the other sites have any value, not meaning monitary value either.<the other sites are rubbish>, luring us away with their roulette and fruit machines, stars is just poker.
                        Gl bro lets not tilt together ahahah.

                        IF you've truly readjusted your goals and just want to be naught but a slightly profitable recreational player (which is fine...) then 1 or 2 tabling the nanostakes ($5 and below) is perfectly OK.

                        Just understand that without volume and lots of it it will be exceedingly hard,if not nigh on impossible,to move beyond these stakes. Again,if that's what you're now comfortable with...1000% fine,everyone needs to be honest with themselves and what they want out of their experience.

                        But volume,even 4-6 tabling,is going to be needed to get past these stakes.

                        On the HUD thing...meh,personally I DID and DO see the benefits in the ability to examine one's sessions whilst streamlining the time crunch needed to do so (thus allowing one to look at even more criteria,though information overload needs to be watched..."paralysis by analysis" so to speak...)is a huge plus for HUD's.

                        BUT...I would and will be likely to resist using one when US players return until I get to $3 games and up or if (very,very unlikely...) I were to be putting up 12+ tables at a time. Not because of cost vs. benefits but just because to my mind the decisions at the $2 and less levels are so push-button rote that I would rather further develop my reading and note-taking skills at these levels so that these tools are more honed when needed more at higher levels.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the advise grade b, and Moxie, and as I found out tonight...
                          Starting only 5 at the same time and ending up HU in 3 of them was getting a bit hectic, I was for sure, not playing my A game against them "1st 2nd 2nd"

                          I have a whole new thing to learn, I found 5 tables at the start very slow and felt like I could of played 20. But, once the HU started.... Oh boy.

                          I hope your all in good health and gl at the tables.

                          PP72.
                          Last edited by PokerPest72; Fri Dec 06, 2013, 12:55 AM. Reason: i like apples.

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                          • #14
                            Have you tried TableNinja 2?

                            It can register and manage tables for you and also preset your raises according to blinds. Takes a lot of automation out of Pokerstars for you although it is very expensive (monthly or yearly rental). I'm using a trial atm and finding it of help although it's a bit buggy for me.

                            I start 10 and play them out to completion. I find by the end of the session you only have 3 or 4 remaining when it comes to the critical stages and you can give these a lot more concentration.

                            Edit, you get a free 30 day trial with TableNinja.
                            Last edited by Ovalman; Fri Dec 06, 2013, 01:36 AM. Reason: added edit
                            Bracelet Winner

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Moxie Pip View Post
                              IF you've truly readjusted your goals and just want to be naught but a slightly profitable recreational player (which is fine...) then 1 or 2 tabling the nanostakes ($5 and below) is perfectly OK.

                              Just understand that without volume and lots of it it will be exceedingly hard,if not nigh on impossible,to move beyond these stakes. Again,if that's what you're now comfortable with...1000% fine,everyone needs to be honest with themselves and what they want out of their experience.

                              But volume,even 4-6 tabling,is going to be needed to get past these stakes.

                              On the HUD thing...meh,personally I DID and DO see the benefits in the ability to examine one's sessions whilst streamlining the time crunch needed to do so (thus allowing one to look at even more criteria,though information overload needs to be watched..."paralysis by analysis" so to speak...)is a huge plus for HUD's.

                              BUT...I would and will be likely to resist using one when US players return until I get to $3 games and up or if (very,very unlikely...) I were to be putting up 12+ tables at a time. Not because of cost vs. benefits but just because to my mind the decisions at the $2 and less levels are so push-button rote that I would rather further develop my reading and note-taking skills at these levels so that these tools are more honed when needed more at higher levels.

                              Thanks MOxie, I understand without multi tabling it would be hard to escape micro stakes.
                              Today and the last few days I have felt like a new player with a fresh mind. Today I gave it everything I had got, todays results...

                              12/05/2013 $1.00 NL Hold'em [180 Players] $0.91+$0.09 3/180 $18.67
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 43/45 $0.00
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [180 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 58/180 $0.00
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [90 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 6/90 $2.00
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 7/45 $0.70
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [180 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 17/180 $0.76
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 5/45 $1.82
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 29/45 $0.00
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 4/45 $2.53
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 20/45 $0.00
                              12/05/2013 $0.50 NL Hold'em [45 Players, Turbo] $0.45+$0.05 9/45 $0.00


                              Is this good enough although im missing the first place spots, without a HUD on single tables?

                              p.s I now know who Norman Chad is after watching wsop 2013 on youtube lol
                              Last edited by holdemace486; Fri Dec 06, 2013, 09:05 AM.

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