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    Hi I need one mod and one pso member to help out with an experiment.

    The experiment is basically, I need one pso member to pretend they are variance, and for 20 days of play variance favours either LAG or TAG, so I need you to write TAG or LAG in random order 20 times.

    This is where the MOD comes into it, I want your 20 random TAG/LAG to be sent to the MOD if one will spare the time and help out.

    I will then send 20 random TAG or LAG to the MOD, as the style I decided to play on that day.

    and then I would ask the mod to repost both in this post, not mixing them up lol.

    This is test one, in can variance be beaten!

    Please any new players or begginers etc, take no note of my post as its just some experiments im running at the moment.
    Glad for you to read my post, but in no way take any of this into your play.

  • #2
    That won't accomplish, nor prove a single thing... and I know for certain that I will NOT be a part of it, nor recommend that anyone else would be!

    John (JWK24)
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    • #3
      John its just an experiment?, something to debate.

      Experiments are how the world ticks, finding new ideas and concepts.

      I put a disclaimer.

      If it helped nobody else it would help me, and I thought pokerschool was about helping each other in the understandings of poker.

      Just because I want to explore, and get a reply like that, thats
      disapointing from a respected mod, when im keeping my posts toned down and keeping in pso guidlines, whats wrong with an experiment?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
        John its just an experiment?, something to debate.
        If you want to run an experiment, that's fine. However, I would not want ANY MOD to be a part of it.

        John (JWK24)
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        • #5
          Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
          for 20 days of play variance favours either LAG or TAG
          Holdemace, variance always favours TAG.

          LAG is almost by defintion a style that is higher variance than TAG


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          • #6
            Abolutely varience can be beaten ..... And the answer is super simple ........ DON'T PLAY !!
            Problem solved! thank you for participating
            May the tinfoil protect you. MT

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
              If you want to run an experiment, that's fine. However, I would not want ANY MOD to be a part of it.

              John (JWK24)
              ok john sorry understood, no problem, ok i need two pso members to help out in an experiment as original post,and hopefully then I can show you more what im on about, and try to explain better.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mtnestegg View Post
                Abolutely varience can be beaten ..... And the answer is super simple ........ DON'T PLAY !!
                Problem solved! thank you for participating
                well exactly mtn, if you did not play on those downswings or switched your style on those downswings maybe you could beat variance.

                think about it . look at your graphs, if you could avoid or second guess those days when variance was not your freind, you could in fact beat variance, even if it was some of the time, but thats another form of variance,and not the experiment im working on lol, thats experiment two lol.

                and may the tin foil hat protect you from me lol

                p.s thinking learning omaha next year lol
                Last edited by holdemace486; Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:12 PM. Reason: typo

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                • #9
                  ahar? how does variance favour tag, when variance does not favour any one by right,

                  this is what I am on about, sometimes variance favours the LAG, sometimes I see im running good on scraps, variance is my freind, then other days I wish i had played TAG and vice versa.

                  Them days you lose playing TAG, just maybe if you had played LAG you may of won.

                  like i said though to all beginners and newbies,this posts are only theories, please do not try to take this to the tables.

                  PSO teaches long term success, remember that

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                  • #10
                    If you want two random TAG/LAG lines of 20 each by two people, then u actually need noones participation..... you simply need to flip a coin 40 times
                    May the tinfoil protect you. MT

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
                      ahar? how does variance favour tag, when variance does not favour any one by right,

                      this is what I am on about, sometimes variance favours the LAG, sometimes I see im running good on scraps, variance is my freind, then other days I wish i had played TAG and vice versa.

                      Them days you lose playing TAG, just maybe if you had played LAG you may of won.

                      like i said though to all beginners and newbies,this posts are only theories, please do not try to take this to the tables.

                      PSO teaches long term success, remember that
                      Luck does not favour anyone. But some playing styles results will be more susceptible to luck than others.

                      You cannot dodge luck by switching playing styles.

                      If you want to reduce your variance, use a TAG style.

                      This does not however guarantee the best profits. Just the lowest variance results.

                      That being said. I'm out. Good Luck in your venture.


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                      • #12
                        yes thank you mtn that is a good option, i wanted two random people just to show the results I was using was fair and completely random.

                        MY idea was that each day either the tag or the lag is favoured by variance of the deck, its more like hours or minutes even, but for example would use days.

                        It would not prove anything but would show some interesting results to debate and think about as a group, something interesting for a change to talk about.

                        My idea was i would obviously overlap the results, to see if random guessing of a style on any given day could be more efficient or not as the results may show,

                        I have got a feling though by second guessing the style, it could in fact create more variance, or maybe it may work as we would still play the premiums the same way when playing lag. need some one to be a honest and do some random variance favouring tag or lag for 20 times.
                        Then i can show more of what i mean.
                        Last edited by holdemace486; Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:40 PM. Reason: typo

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                        • #13
                          Thank you andy ahar your input most appreciated

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                          • #14
                            you can NOT beat variance by randomly picking a playing style period, and even by picking it intelligently, you still dont "beat" it, so only by not playing at all can you "beat" it, and thus have a 0 expected value. exactly like this experiment 0 EV ... with that i'm out too
                            May the tinfoil protect you. MT

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                            • #15
                              The only way to beat so called varience is to use proper brm. If your running bad play 0.10 tourneys its not going to effect your roll. When your running a bit better move up the stakes again. I know its easier said than done and sounds really nitty but if its going to keep you in the game it has to be done. Your playing style should depend on the dynamics of the table/game/player you are playing at any givin time if that makes any sense.

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