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    Ok after today I can not help thinking theres something wrong. Today as completely sent me back to my original thoughts I originally add.
    I just do not get it, took me two month to build my BR up to have it destroyed today by almost half.
    I keep thinking it is me on a tilt, but im not so sure anymore. Its really weird, its like the damn thing knows exactly what move im going to make and makes sure I am beaten and in a never fold situation.
    It seemed so different when the server was last reset and now back to the normal run of the mill as the last 3 or 4 year i have played.
    I really do not think it is me any more, I have seen to many strange things happen. I do not wish to list the strange things that happen, I am going to contact Pokerstars directly and tell them.
    Yes my BR management could of been better today but I wanted to have a good days play with mixed variance instead of set piece losing which it seemed.
    No doubt it will be passed off to variance or a tilty downswing, but I see a lot and do not miss much, my coin landing on tails every single time, no matter what format or game structure I went in. So wheres the variance?.
    I just do not know anymore, seems more like a handicap rather than variance, may be just me on a tilt having a rant, but 3-4 years every time I try to gain some profit so I can play at higher stakes, I just get wipped. Its not as if the players are that better either, its just the situations it seems to set up.
    I feel like a micro stake guinee pig who is only meant to collect rakes at real low stakes, can not even donk myself a win when I try push it, yet I see the donks collecting the bucks to hand them back out again.
    No real need to comment back, you know I have heard it all before by now. Having my rant and going to tell pokerstars what I think and show them the reasons why I think it.

  • #2
    Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
    took me two month to build my BR up to have it destroyed today by almost half.
    Think of this situation:

    You're the best poker player in the world, with a bankroll of $1,000,000. You enter a $1,000,000 heads-up tournament, and you double it because you're the best. So you enter a $2,000.000 tournament, and the other guy is a horrible player, so you win that one too. So you take your winnings and head off to the next game, a $4,000,000 heads-up tournament. You go card dead for an hour, and then get all-in with aces against kings, and your aces lose. You are the best player in the world and you now have absolutely no money. Why? Because when you made the decision to risk that amount of your bankroll, you gave up your skill advantage and decided to put your future in the hands of luck.

    I usually play 25-75 games of my chosen format per day, and I can only manage that because I play eight tables at once. I'll assume that you play fewer. I use a 100 buy-in rule. If I go on the worst streak of luck ever, and lose every game I play in a single day, I can barely manage to lose half my bankroll within 24 hours. If you are capable of doing it without eight-tabling for at least four hours per day, I'd suggest that you're negating any skill you may have by moving up in stakes too quickly. You will lose games, and you can't control that. It is totally up to you how much you lose when that happens.

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    • #3
      The tinfoil hat... ...is askew. inidonk: And as far as the no need to comment thing...lol. This is a public forum holdem. If you're gonna tee this stuff up,then we're gonna hit it. You want to post some key hands...different story. We'll be glad to help.
      Last edited by Moxie Pip; Tue Mar 06, 2012, 07:05 AM.

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      • #4
        Somewhere, by someone in this forum, in the past... I think it's said best with a healthy "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. "

        Yes, you are doing something wrong. Many of us have been trying to tell you this from the start.

        You are playing for real money without having any sort of grasp on simple concepts while being convinced that the "SOFTWARE" is against you.

        THAT is what you're doing wrong. Plain and simple.

        You think PokerStars wrote a code into it's software to target you, holdemace486.

        Personally, I would like to thank PokerStars for having the foresight to protect the likes of me from being preyed upon by the author of "How to be a PRO." I mean, hell... How could I have ever built a BR up from ZERO without PokerStars rigging the software in my favor?

        No sarcasm here at all, and taking your own advice... I think it would be good for you to walk away from poker for a while. Figure out what you're doing with your life and your brain now that you've quit the pot. Or get back on the weed. Anything other than banging your head against the same wall over and over. That never helps anyone.

        And again, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
          I just do not get it, took me two month to build my BR up to have it destroyed today by almost half.
          You really lost two dollars today? That's BRUTAL!

          Seriously though, you have never been a winning player, ever, and you blame it on the software/company/variance/gammarays/planetary positions, and then you say that you lost half your bankroll in a couple of hours. I have played against you in three different tourneys that I can remember, and I took all your chips in two of them (because someone else took them before me in the third one). That's not because I'm a world class player or because I run good (and most of you know that I don't, I'm like a reverse Jason Mercier), but because you make some huge, huge mistakes, and you just keep on making the same mistakes time after time thinking that THIS time you will win. Poker doesn't care how much you want to win, it only cares about the cards.

          I really do not think it is me any more, I have seen to many strange things happen.
          I have lost with kings 14 times in a row (cash games), and I was up against aces in only one of them, then I won once, and lost another three before everything slowly turned back to normal. Mind you that I lost full stacks in almost all of them. I have lost to one outers countless times, and two days ago, I joined the "losing with AA vs 72o" club (and I'm actually surprised it took this long). Despite this, I am still a winning player. Almost all of us have gone through this and we're still winning players. I doubt that you've ever had a really bad variance streak and you're STILL losing. It's definitely you making the wrong decisions. All players make bad decisions every now and then, and they learn from their mistakes. But for some reason, you just don't, and I find that mind-boggling to say the least.

          Like I said in another thread; I'm very sure you have a gambling problem and you should get help for that instead of wasting more money on poker, because I honestly don't think you're going to be a winning player anytime soon, if ever. Use your money for a therapist instead of burning it on poker, unless I'm at your table. ....

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          • #6
            re post

            what games are you playing holdemace?i dont know your br or what buy ins your playing but as a suggestion maybe choose an appropriate stake level and play only limit holdem for a while at 2 cent 4 cent it is very loose on most tables and it is fairly easy to pick a few dollars without jeopardizing your br

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Moxie Pip View Post
              The tinfoil hat... ...is askew. inidonk: .
              shhhhhhh dont be givin ot our fullproof secret way to beat the riggement mox! jeez... and for free even? damn, hurry up and edit that out man!
              May the tinfoil protect you. MT

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              • #8
                ok hold em ,u aint winning ,guess wat neither am i ,now i was winnin i was on a roll ,now no matter wat i is crushed ,but it aint the software ,its the game ,is that gonna put me off no it aint,ive had evry hand crushed by lesser hands n then some ,yet i have crushed biggies myself ,u have to take the good with the bad if u cant take gettin beat then stop playin , hope things work out for you soon ,now wheres my foil hat umbup:

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                • #9
                  First thing to get over is this feeling that the site is after you. PokerStars couldn't give a (explative deleted) what a (censored) player does, or doesn't do. As far as this site is concerned, players without bracelets are (explative deleted) cash cows, there to be milked. They don't know you, and couldn't be bothered to learn who you are.

                  If this were a casino game, such as blackjack, I might understand the feeling, but use some logic. Regardless of what you do, the site makes money. Therefore, there is no specific reason to target a player, or a group of players through manipulation of the software. When your ordinary intelligence hedgehog knows this, it should be obvious to mensa classified brainiacs.

                  Do you honestly think any of us here haven't gone through downswings? I'm stuck in play money, but I too experience them. Had a run of seventeen games where my best hand was a group four clunker. How about a month where I feared pocket kings since they always met bullets? Would you believe an eight-hand run with the same hand every time late in the game when I was desperate for a win? Wish they were aces instead of 7-2, but that's another story.

                  Those who do take the time to offer help have given great advice. So how well are you practicing bankroll management? Have you learned how to use the recorder yet? (Took me almost a month of practice - yeah, that computer inept.) Will you be offering hand histories for us to see some of these boneheaded plays? And most important, will you be willing to apply these lessons in future games?

                  Does this mean the old hedgehog doesn't get pissed? I wish! If my desk wasn't made of something hard, there would be a deep dent where I bang my fist, or plaster would be a fashion statement with me. My one-word explatives would never happen. My monitor would be needing replacement every month after some of the things I've seen.

                  The difference is I get angry, vent, calm down, and play another game. Whenever I do something stupid, and I do, I try not to repeat.

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                  • #10

                    check out ur GUI, pokerstars asks u to download that

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                    • #11
                      Interesting again seems how I have not said I think its rigged, I just think that something is wrong.
                      I understand Br management and understand you can lose it quicker at the higher level you go.
                      If you see what I can see and how I view it you would fully understand why and what I think.
                      Feskpins for example you say about your bad runs then say before it turns back to normal?.
                      I bet if you did a poll more people would vote for something wrong than nothing wrong.

                      Ok I will point out a few things that well are not just right.

                      I firstly complain about lots of disconnects with premium hands, then they stop after complaining, coincidence, maybe.

                      I complained saying something wrong time before, then magically started to win, in 2 month have seen quads about 20 times, even though for 3-4 years before can not remember seing them once.

                      I see the software and randomness change, may sound madness but I honestly see this change.

                      Variance should in theory change when into a new game or new format and it does not, if you are losing on a particular day ,,you seem to continue to lose no matter what you do.

                      Winning days is not variance, winning and losing games is, example I play say 30 games on a bad day on ere and lose every one, I bet you 30 different games at a casino and this would not be the case.

                      Its simple, the RNG is naff, it can not deal with the volume of players and games. Server overload or something like that.

                      You could never understand to be honest what I see, and I am not trying to disrupt pokerstars in any way, i love this site, but feel those tech guys need to look at the rng or server volume and sort it out.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by holdemace486 View Post
                        Interesting again seems how I have not said I think its rigged, I just think that something is wrong.
                        I understand Br management and understand you can lose it quicker at the higher level you go.
                        If you see what I can see and how I view it you would fully understand why and what I think.
                        Feskpins for example you say about your bad runs then say before it turns back to normal?.
                        I bet if you did a poll more people would vote for something wrong than nothing wrong.

                        Ok I will point out a few things that well are not just right.

                        I firstly complain about lots of disconnects with premium hands, then they stop after complaining, coincidence, maybe.

                        I complained saying something wrong time before, then magically started to win, in 2 month have seen quads about 20 times, even though for 3-4 years before can not remember seing them once.

                        I see the software and randomness change, may sound madness but I honestly see this change.

                        Variance should in theory change when into a new game or new format and it does not, if you are losing on a particular day ,,you seem to continue to lose no matter what you do.

                        Winning days is not variance, winning and losing games is, example I play say 30 games on a bad day on ere and lose every one, I bet you 30 different games at a casino and this would not be the case.

                        Its simple, the RNG is naff, it can not deal with the volume of players and games. Server overload or something like that.

                        You could never understand to be honest what I see, and I am not trying to disrupt pokerstars in any way, i love this site, but feel those tech guys need to look at the rng or server volume and sort it out.
                        Honestly holdmeace, I don't really like to get involved in these sort of conversations. (this is where i say "but..." and get involved anyway"

                        but, I have a ton of respect for the people on this forum. They literally don't have to do a single thing to help us. And if they didn't we'd most likely be in the same position you are in (ok maybe not exactly as most of us do have a little thing we use... starts with B and ends in RAIN). I have seen numerous replies on your threads with honest and whole-hearted advice. I have posted on some of them too. The key is to listen to that advice. It's honestly just very disrespectful to everyone who has put in their time to try to help you. After observing all the things you've said in the time I have been on this forum i feel like the only advice that can really be given to you is to call 1-800-GAMBLER. You want to win more than you want to learn and it's just going to continue this endless nonsense.

                        Or in words that you would possibly understand....

                        Did you forget to wear you're lucky socks?
                        Last edited by sydhollow97; Tue Mar 06, 2012, 06:44 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sydhollow97 View Post
                          Honestly holdmeace, I don't really like to get involved in these sort of conversations. (this is where i say "but..." and get involved anyway"

                          but, I have a ton of respect for the people on this forum. They literally don't have to do a single thing to help us. And if they didn't we'd most likely be in the same position you are in (ok maybe not exactly as most of us do have a little thing we use... starts with B and ends in RAIN). I have seen numerous replies on your threads with honest and whole-hearted advice. I have posted on some of them too. The key is to listen to that advice. It's honestly just very disrespectful to everyone who has put in their time to try to help you. After observing all the things you've said in the time I have been on this forum i feel like the only advice that can really be given to you is to call 1-800-GAMBLER. You want to win more than you want to learn and it's just going to continue this endless nonsense.

                          Or in words that you would possibly understand....

                          Did you forget to wear you're lucky socks?



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                          now that unfair when only 200 points y fight now

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                          • #14
                            nice comment syd, I will make one thing clear though I am not a gambler and do listen to all the advice, its not my fault that a lot of the times I get misunderstood, I can not help this, its the way I speak or post, thats just me.
                            And no disrepect to any one, every one knows that.
                            If I think something, Im ranting about it yes, I have no one else to rant at or to ask about. I will tell you all straight, im stuck in the house 24/7 looking after my disabled mrs, and have 2 young children, I play a great game of poker when my mind is on it, finding my mind is the hard problem like some one suggested and they know why, my head is messed up due to other problems I had in the past,
                            If I can sort my mindset out which does keep slipping away for one reason or another I am in no doubt I could play pro as I have had more practice than most.
                            My post I made on how to become a pro is really good stuff and I wsh I had the attitude to do what I preach, because I know that is a winning formula.
                            I all ready know I am playing far to much again, its my own fault but with nothing better to do most of the time., poker is my only real enjoyment in life so what else is there for me, not much because my being poor does not allow me to do much more than min deposit on ere for a few weeks or months entertainment.
                            And thats me in a nut shell, hard luck stories the same as many others I suppose, and a crying shame I can not play at the levels where I feel I should be playing.
                            Im at 25c buyins my cigerettes cost more than that, its so hard to keep my disipline with thoughts like that.
                            Yes I should quit smoking and could save that money and use it to play, but damnnn, i dont drink ,dont go anywhere, got have something in life even though eventually that something may kill me off.
                            I am shocked how many people take it to heart when i post something like this, by now you all know im the local *****r lol, and by now should have no problems in understanding my charecter and my mad thoughts, and the reasons i post my mad thoughts.
                            Anyway wish you all luck must go ,im on final table .

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                            • #15
                              Holdemace, I have decided to come back here give you some pointers here. From what i can see there is lots of good peeps here are trying their best to help you out with your poker game. Doesn't matter what kind of game or buy in you play in it BR you got to control. I make sure i have 25 x buy in for what ever tourneys i play, but sometimes i can go little over. It fine by me how i play my game as long i don't go busto in my BR that is the key here. Once i start losing then i drop a level or two. Of course it NEVERENDING learning playing poker. 100 x buy in is by far best to go with out risking your BR. Try do what Cowboy did i sure like that challange, it help me in the long run, b4 i didn't thought of that and i thank Chris for that one. Don't rush your game trying to win money, sit back take your time slowly build up your BR that what i do for now. I stop playing in MTT for a while because i realize it not easy to make money in MTT. Right now i mostly play in sit n go trying to bulid up my BR yes of course you win and lose some that poker, even i made right +EV play and still lose. Instead getting upset about it just laugh about it, and move on to next game. Try not to make same mistakes again. Hope this help you. Maybe i'm wrong about you ? PS Come to my home game sometimes, and see you on the felt. mileypoker:moke:

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