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Why are Premier league players allowed to play in the open league ?

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  • Why are Premier league players allowed to play in the open league ?

    I realise that by definition 'OPEN' skill league means open to all, but bearing in mind that the open tourney fills up so quickly, I question the sense in allowing premier league players to enter what is essentially the 'lower' division of the league, especially as they do not even get a score recorded.
    All this is doing is preventing either less able or (in my case) less financially well off players from entering a tournament when the premier players have their own ring fenced league.
    No doubt this will provoke howls of protest but i have missed registering for 3 tournaments by seconds recently when the absence of premier lg players would probably have left enough space for me to enter.
    Any body care to justify their inclusion ?

  • #2
    Originally posted by boobylops View Post
    I realise that by definition 'OPEN' skill league means open to all, but bearing in mind that the open tourney fills up so quickly, I question the sense in allowing premier league players to enter what is essentially the 'lower' division of the league, especially as they do not even get a score recorded.
    All this is doing is preventing either less able or (in my case) less financially well off players from entering a tournament when the premier players have their own ring fenced league.
    No doubt this will provoke howls of protest but i have missed registering for 3 tournaments by seconds recently when the absence of premier lg players would probably have left enough space for me to enter.
    Any body care to justify their inclusion ?
    HOW MANY DO YOU THINK ENTER ANY ONE TOURNY ??



    sometimes i laugh so hard tears run down my leg

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    • #3
      My guess would be 20 to 30, (establishe by checking people's previous tourney rankings) not many I know, but enough when the entries click to 10k just as you are logging in !

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      • #4
        I still occasionally play the Open Skill league if I am on PS when one is registering.

        Don't forget PSO is a school where PSO members have league tournaments provided both to compete for prizes but also to practice and learn the game. I use the Open league games to practice playing different styles, take notes on players who are at the top end of the Open leaderboard who I might be up against in the Premier in future, and on all the players I might be competing with if I get relegated back to the Open. I will only play a few a month, and I doubt many premier players are eager to play in many of these.

        If I was still in the Open league making a serious attempt to finish high up the leaderboard I would rather have some other serious PSO players to compete with rather than the many all-in shove monkeys who turn up as overspill from the astronomer freerolls

        Everybody has the same very limited chance to register for the Open Skill league tournaments. If an open tournament fills up then even if all 1500 premier ticket holders had registered there are still 8500 other places - so if you can't get organised enough to register then don't blame those who can.

        Good Luck

        Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
        4 Time Bracelet Winner


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        • #5
          A valid point which I hadn't considered at all, thankyou.

          As for being organised sometimes events conspire against you (internet access problems mainly) and to miss a tournament by seconds is very frustrating when you are trying to improve your game and leaderboard position.

          What has just occurred to me is that IF the US players are ever allowed back then 10,000 places will be nowhere near enough when you account for the 120,000 people already registering for the Open league, a case for regional leagues maybe ?

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          • #6
            As far as your point on the US players, Staff has commented that if the registration were to fill up even faster than it does now, then they would be allowed to increase the amount of players. I can't remember the exact number, but it was something like 2 or 3 minutes to fill would allow the increase. It doesn't mean this can't occur w/o US players, but obviously it would be much more likely when we are allowed back.

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            • #7
              Understand the frustration, it happens to us all.

              Not sure they will want to move back to regional leagues because that is essentially what they had prior to July, with IntelliPoker De/Es etc running similar leagues (pretty much mirrored) to the PSO which have now been merged into the one. I assumed this was done due to fall in numbers after black friday.

              I'm not sure I would be wanting to enter a PSO Open Skill freeroll tournament if the 10k players increases to 20k/30k/40k though - not unless they take some steps to improve the format as they have in the premier league.

              Good luck

              Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
              4 Time Bracelet Winner


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              • #8
                Originally posted by EdinFreeMan View Post
                Everybody has the same very limited chance to register for the Open Skill league tournaments. If an open tournament fills up then even if all 1500 premier ticket holders had registered there are still 8500 other places - so if you can't get organised enough to register then don't blame those who can. Good Luck Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
                +10,000 umbup: If the OP is missing out on successfully registering by "seconds", then clearly they are taking a lastminute.com approach to registering in the first place. And their attempt to use PSL players as a smokescreen for their lack of organisation is, to be frank, a complete joke. BE READY and you will get in no problem. Dont be ready..and then you have ONLY YOURSELF to blame if you fail to register in time.

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                • #9
                  almost missed registering while reading posts!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by boobylops View Post
                    I realise that by definition 'OPEN' skill league means open to all, but bearing in mind that the open tourney fills up so quickly, I question the sense in allowing premier league players to enter what is essentially the 'lower' division of the league, especially as they do not even get a score recorded.
                    All this is doing is preventing either less able or (in my case) less financially well off players from entering a tournament when the premier players have their own ring fenced league.
                    No doubt this will provoke howls of protest but i have missed registering for 3 tournaments by seconds recently when the absence of premier lg players would probably have left enough space for me to enter.
                    Any body care to justify their inclusion ?
                    I don't believe that it is the PSL players that are to blame, as I don't think many of them bother with the OL. What bothers me is when your trying to climb in the standings (like myself) and you have so many players playing in the tourney that are only there for the 1/10000 chance of winning a $5 bill.

                    I mean, I understand there is alot of players not willing to deposit and that is why they play the freerolls, but playing a tournament for 4+ hours to reach the final table for only a couple bucks is pretty ridiculous.

                    I find that i'm always knocked out by some hyper-aggressive player that isn't even looking for standings points, and call's an all in with a draw and hits it. And these seem to be the players that make it far in the tourney, due to their care-free approach.

                    That's my two cents.

                    S.Vanzella

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