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    Hey all,

    WAY late in the game but a couple of changes I feel should be instituted ASAP.

    -finish position of daily tourneys should be straight forward..eg...top 33% MEANS you are in the positive points, irrelevant to where you are on the overall leaderboard. Straight and simple.
    Surviving in a league with this level of players should be promoted, via positive points.
    When you are playing in a points league, and not knowing where the cutoff is to me, is very wrong.

    -Much to high of a turnover every month. An almost 50% turnover is way too high considering real life situations., Holidays, sickness, family business...ect...ect..ect....
    500 from the open league is way to high IMO.

    The qualifier peeps are legitimatly trying to earn their way in. OK with that 200 number.

    Still not too late to reconsider, lets keep making it better.

    Dale
    3 Time Bracelet Winner


  • #2
    Originally posted by dale442 View Post
    Hey all,

    WAY late in the game but a couple of changes I feel should be instituted ASAP.

    -finish position of daily tourneys should be straight forward..eg...top 33% MEANS you are in the positive points, irrelevant to where you are on the overall leaderboard. Straight and simple.
    Surviving in a league with this level of players should be promoted, via positive points.
    When you are playing in a points league, and not knowing where the cutoff is to me, is very wrong.

    -Much to high of a turnover every month. An almost 50% turnover is way too high considering real life situations., Holidays, sickness, family business...ect...ect..ect....
    500 from the open league is way to high IMO.

    The qualifier peeps are legitimatly trying to earn their way in. OK with that 200 number.

    Still not too late to reconsider, lets keep making it better.

    Dale

    DO YOU KNOW WHAT A HANDICAP LEAGUE IS ???

    The handicap league offers players the opportunity to play competitive singles rounds with players of varying abilities.

    IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO GET FOR PLUS POINTS

    DO YOU REALLY THINK THINK 500 FROM THE OPEN LEAGUE OF 120,000 IS TO MANY ??
    I THINK THEY SHOULD ONLY KEEP THE TOP 200 AND TAKE 1,100 FROM THE OPEN
    THAT WOULD MAKE IT SO MUCH BETTER
    AND STAFF IT'S NOT TO LATE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES



    sometimes i laugh so hard tears run down my leg

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    • #3
      Originally posted by hemetdennis View Post
      DO YOU KNOW WHAT A HANDICAP LEAGUE IS ???

      The handicap league offers players the opportunity to play competitive singles rounds with players of varying abilities.

      IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO GET FOR PLUS POINTS

      DO YOU REALLY THINK THINK 500 FROM THE OPEN LEAGUE OF 120,000 IS TO MANY ??
      I THINK THEY SHOULD ONLY KEEP THE TOP 200 AND TAKE 1,100 FROM THE OPEN
      THAT WOULD MAKE IT SO MUCH BETTER
      AND STAFF IT'S NOT TO LATE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES




      Yep, I know what a handicap league is.

      This league has been downsized massively to 1500, in case you forgot. So....why is a handicap necessary??

      Easy to figure out where positive points for a player starts? Really now??

      Top 33% was the bubble of points ~roughly~ for me, until ....


      08/28/2011 21:00 PokerSchool Premier Skill League No Limit 235 66 -1.04 1702.89 1701.85

      |t is a complicated formula to know where points start and how many you can get at what point. Can you calculate the "Field strength" during a tourney? I cannot. Doubtful many can.

      Having a "rough" idea of where points start is not good enough!!
      I guess you didn't witness last months final tourney. The one that was so closely contested between two members for the win. They didn't know either, I know this from railing the two during this final tourney, as many others also withessed. Do you know what the winning margin was??

      Your numbers for entry into the next months tourney are outlandish. Did you ever hear of varience...ect....??? Real life things like I posted?? Or did you miss that part of the post?

      This is a real league with real people with real lives. Not being able to run real well month to month will happen. Finishing anywhere in the money and beyond is this league now is an accomplishment and should be rewarded with a ticket for the following month.

      You can check my 4 months of stats here now to show you how I have grown as a player. LONG freakin way to go though. It clearly proves that the evolving nature of the league is helpful for a relative newbie to grow as a player.

      Have you considered how much the league may change with the 500 open league peeps coming in?? Will it revert back to the "Burn and fold league" again? And you want to increase that number?? Maybe winner only, or top ten retain their ticket. Yep, that did sound pretty silly now didnt it??

      Dale
      Last edited by dale442; Tue Aug 30, 2011, 06:36 PM.
      3 Time Bracelet Winner

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      • #4
        Before the qualifier league was announced, the premier league had a 1/3 churn rate - 500 of 1500 players. That sounded reasonable. When the site announced the addition of the qualifier league, the churn rate became 700 of 1500. That is high. Like you, I had suggested a way of going back to the same churn rate without causing too much disruption.

        1,500 players = league numbers
        0,100 players = removed at end of August
        -------------------
        1,400 players = remain
        0,500 players = added from the open league
        0,200 players = added from the qualifier league
        -------------------
        2,100 players = league numbers in September

        For all months in the future

        700 players = removed
        500 players = added from open league
        200 players = added from qualifier league

        Net change = zero --- churn rate remains one in three

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dale442 View Post
          Yep, I know what a handicap league is. This league has been downsized massively to 1500, in case you forgot. So....why is a handicap necessary?? Easy to figure out where positive points for a player starts? Really now?? Top 33% was the bubble of points ~roughly~ for me, until .... 08/28/2011 21:00 PokerSchool Premier Skill League No Limit 235 66 -1.04 1702.89 1701.85 |t is a complicated formula to know where points start and how many you can get at what point. Can you calculate the "Field strength" during a tourney? I cannot. Doubtful many can. Having a "rough" idea of where points start is not good enough!! I guess you didn't witness last months final tourney. The one that was so closely contested between two members for the win. They didn't know either, I know this from railing the two during this final tourney, as many others also withessed. Do you know what the winning margin was?? Your numbers for entry into the next months tourney are outlandish. Did you ever hear of varience...ect....??? Real life things like I posted?? Or did you miss that part of the post? This is a real league with real people with real lives. Not being able to run real well month to month will happen. Finishing anywhere in the money and beyond is this league now is an accomplishment and should be rewarded with a ticket for the following month. You can check my 4 months of stats here now to show you how I have grown as a player. LONG freakin way to go though. It clearly proves that the evolving nature of the league is helpful for a relative newbie to grow as a player. Have you considered how much the league may change with the 500 open league peeps coming in?? Will it revert back to the "Burn and fold league" again? And you want to increase that number?? Maybe winner only, or top ten retain their ticket. Yep, that did sound pretty silly now didnt it?? Dale
          WELL THE P.L. HAS NOT BEEN DOWNSIZED IT STARTED WITH1500 AND WILL HAVE 1500 NEXT MO. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY ARE PLAYING WHEN 4 GOLFERS GO PLAY DO THEY FORGET THEIR HANDICAPS DO YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE PLUS POINTS ARE? IF YOU PLAY A GAME DON'T YOU TRY TO GET AS FAR AS YOU CAN OR JUST GET TO SOME POINT AND QUIT ANYBODY THAT PLAYS THE "BURN AND FOLD" IN THE P.L. IS NOT GOING TO GET TO FAR. DID IT WORK WHEN THERE WAS 1500 NEW PEOPLE?? AND IT WONT WORK IF THERE WAS 1500 NEW PEOPLE NEXT MO. NOW SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE IT 2100 PEOPLE WHY NOT 2500 OR 5000 OR 25000 LOL WHY NOT GIVE ALL 120000 PEOPLE A TIC. umbup: SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A PRIVATE CLUB MAYBE MAKE SO A NEW PERSON HAS TO BE APPROVED TO GET IN I WOULD RATHER SEE THE TOP 100 OR 200 STAY AND GIVE MORE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO PLAY IN IT JUST ME SO STAFF MAKE IT SO PLEASE umbup:umbup:
          sometimes i laugh so hard tears run down my leg

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hemetdennis View Post
            WELL THE P.L. HAS NOT BEEN DOWNSIZED IT STARTED WITH1500 AND WILL HAVE 1500 NEXT MO. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY ARE PLAYING WHEN 4 GOLFERS GO PLAY DO THEY FORGET THEIR HANDICAPS DO YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE PLUS POINTS ARE? IF YOU PLAY A GAME DON'T YOU TRY TO GET AS FAR AS YOU CAN OR JUST GET TO SOME POINT AND QUIT ANYBODY THAT PLAYS THE "BURN AND FOLD" IN THE P.L. IS NOT GOING TO GET TO FAR. DID IT WORK WHEN THERE WAS 1500 NEW PEOPLE?? AND IT WONT WORK IF THERE WAS 1500 NEW PEOPLE NEXT MO. NOW SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE IT 2100 PEOPLE WHY NOT 2500 OR 5000 OR 25000 LOL WHY NOT GIVE ALL 120000 PEOPLE A TIC. umbup: SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A PRIVATE CLUB MAYBE MAKE SO A NEW PERSON HAS TO BE APPROVED TO GET IN I WOULD RATHER SEE THE TOP 100 OR 200 STAY AND GIVE MORE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO PLAY IN IT JUST ME SO STAFF MAKE IT SO PLEASE umbup:umbup:
            Again why would u be involved with the leagues when u cannot even play at PokerStars dennis?

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