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  • PL Qualifiers have BS too ?

    yet another min raise / sat up from UTG with KK , i could swear he had KK when he called my raise , after finishing ITM for my first tournament with complete air in every pot i won, now they screwed me with this classic BS, big stakes at the tables got there by donking btw, and how come these players dont have a PSO profile so we can check how new they are to adjust our play ? that was my 2nd and last tournament there, idk if anyone has any success there but those Qualifiers seem to be donk friendly too, you would lol if you saw the next hands won by these donks... .
    Last edited by curvyroads; Wed Aug 03, 2011, 03:43 AM. Reason: typo

  • #2
    not really sure what to say about this, are you saying you donked your way to this spot and then knew what the guy had and still called with nothing? If it were me I would not show this hand for the whole community is going to put a note on you.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Drywallman3 View Post
      not really sure what to say about this, are you saying you donked your way to this spot and then knew what the guy had and still called with nothing? If it were me I would not show this hand for the whole community is going to put a note on you.
      i meant itm in my 1st tournament, i edited the post... and for the note this is not my "A" game, i'm just improvising and praying to lady "luck" to make my hands hold ug: anyway have u played any of those tournaments? they seem that every one has an advantage over you somehow

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      • #4
        I honestly don't see where you have any point to complain. He had pocket kings and played them aggressively, as you should with a group one hand. You called with a very good hand. You caught the top pair. He pushed, you called. On the turn, there was a long-shot chance you had the straight, which might have been the reason for his hesitation. You went all-in and he decided to call. My thinking is both of you played it right, but only one can win.

        Of course my luck with those cowboys would have either a queen or ace show on the river.

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        • #5
          1. Your preflop call on this stack size with AQ is really bad. Glad you qualified this was not your "A" game.

          2. The villain played his KK fine, And sometimes the best hand wins. Where is the donk play? (Besides the preflop call?)
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
            1. Your preflop call on this stack size with AQ is really bad. Glad you qualified this was not your "A" game. 2. The villain played his KK fine, And sometimes the best hand wins. Where is the donk play? (Besides the preflop call?)
            and what is the correct play mr ? fold AQ to a min raise and wait for what to go allin with after the blinds and get a suck out to add to my collection? that player was donking i know what i'm talking about and when he got KK everything got sat up form him to get payed off, not the 1st time i've seen this, min raising KK from UTG i can only imagine the damage if that was me, and no the best hand never wins for me on jokerstars, i played 3 days now between PL and PLQ and my showdown wins are still 0, yesterday i lost my JJ/18BB call against a TT/10BB shove, after that it's game over as u all know anyway check out the wonders again, look what a nice board for someone who calls a 3BB raise with ATs, (and no, i was calling to see what he had ) the guy didnt even bother putting me on anything i'm gonna have to start limp/minraise and see how it goes ug: damn you addiction .
            Last edited by curvyroads; Thu Aug 04, 2011, 11:51 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by curvyroads View Post
              and what is the correct play mr ? fold AQ to a min raise and wait for what to go allin with after the blinds and get a suck out to add to my collection?
              .
              Don't be silly. Fold is by far the worst play in your spot.

              Unless the villain ONLY min-raises with monsters, in which case yes you should fold. But based on your ringing endorsement of his play through out the tournament, it sounds like his range is much wider than monsters.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Drywallman3 View Post
                not really sure what to say about this, are you saying you donked your way to this spot and then knew what the guy had and still called with nothing? If it were me I would not show this hand for the whole community is going to put a note on you.
                Noted!!!

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                • #9
                  Wait...

                  Are you guys telling me top/top is NOT "the nuts"??????

                  OMG...go figure.
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                  • #10
                    check out my 2 last showdowns in PL, against the same player who just won with 2 sets in a row i'm telling u these guys dont even have to think or face any tough decisions to win big pots, they get all the goods even when they screw up preflop.. day 5, wins at showdowns are still 0 umbup:

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                    • #11
                      LOL,unless your intention is to show everyone just how bad a player you are you should really think twice before you post anymore hands IMO.

                      The 43o hand I mean ....WTF???!!!

                      A. You do know that you have a fold button right? Just because they're letting you see a cheap flop (potentially anyway,if that's MY BB I'm punishing you're limping azzes...) doesn't mean you have to. You have 43o and you're in the worst position. FOLD that crap,or if you do play at least raise to try and steal (depending on your reads of course).

                      B. You hit a piece on the flop and it checks around. Ok no real harm done there,I guess. Middle pair/no kicker is hard to open with.

                      C. You hit the turn,have 2 pair and MIN-BET???!!! Jaysus why not just check and let them completely freeroll the river card why dontcha?

                      I mean YOU decided to call pre-flop. No one made you. How much better do you want to be with that crap hand than 2 pair at the turn and you STILL won't bet???

                      There is no way he is EVER folding top pair/K kicker to a min-bet here.

                      D. River you get exactly what you deserve. Well actually you don't. He shoulda tried to tap your goofy butt for more than a min-bet.



                      The AKs hand,I don't get it. What's your complaint here?

                      That he only min-bet? Hmmm maybe he was hoping some donk would shove over top of him by feigning timidity.

                      Looks like it worked...


                      As to your comment about them not having to make any tough decisions...well when you MIN-BET the guy with 2 pair on the turn you aren't exactly making him make a tough decision now are you?

                      As for any donk moves in these hands I'll give you 3 guesses who made them and the first 2 don't count.
                      Last edited by Moxie Pip; Fri Aug 05, 2011, 10:35 AM.

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                      • #12
                        I THOUGHT HE HAD TO BE JOKING
                        IF IT WASN'T A JOKE, IT'S THE FUNNEST NON JOKE. LOL


                        sometimes i laugh so hard tears run down my leg

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Moxie Pip View Post
                          LOL,unless your intention is to show everyone just how bad a player you are you should really think twice before you post anymore hands IMO. The 43o hand I mean ....WTF???!!! A. You do know that you have a fold button right? Just because they're letting you see a cheap flop (potentially anyway,if that's MY BB I'm punishing you're limping azzes...) doesn't mean you have to. You have 43o and you're in the worst position. FOLD that crap,or if you do play at least raise to try and steal (depending on your reads of course). B. You hit a piece on the flop and it checks around. Ok no real harm done there,I guess. Middle pair/no kicker is hard to open with. C. You hit the turn,have 2 pair and MIN-BET???!!! Jaysus why not just check and let them completely freeroll the river card why dontcha? I mean YOU decided to call pre-flop. No one made you. How much better do you want to be with that crap hand than 2 pair at the turn and you STILL won't bet??? There is no way he is EVER folding top pair/K kicker to a min-bet here. D. River you get exactly what you deserve. Well actually you don't. He shoulda tried to tap your goofy butt for more than a min-bet. The AKs hand,I don't get it. What's your complaint here? That he only min-bet? Hmmm maybe he was hoping some donk would shove over top of him by feigning timidity. Looks like it worked... As to your comment about them not having to make any tough decisions...well when you MIN-BET the guy with 2 pair on the turn you aren't exactly making him make a tough decision now are you? As for any donk moves in these hands I'll give you 3 guesses who made them and the first 2 don't count.
                          lol i'm just trying to show u that i lose every hand no matter how i play it, 43 was just a test and u saw how it went, there is no way i'm betting more than the minimum OOP after hitting 2 pair against luck boxes, u see i know it's going to lose to a set or a straight, it always does, the bet was just to get information cuz i know one of them is calling no matter how much i bet, and why are u saying i shouldnt play 43 with those pot odds, i did get 2 pair didnt i ? and what do u mean i got what i deserved on the river ? why cant be him the one getting what he deserves after slow playing ? as for AK you're calling me a donk after shoving my 10BB into a min raise ? is this the kind of player who is going to outplay me ? i dont think so
                          Last edited by curvyroads; Fri Aug 05, 2011, 12:51 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hemetdennis View Post
                            I THOUGHT HE HAD TO BE JOKING
                            IF IT WASN'T A JOKE, IT'S THE FUNNEST NON JOKE. LOL



                            yea, sadly my hands turn into a joke every time, strong, weak, marginal... hero = 0

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Moxie Pip View Post
                              There is no way he is EVER folding top pair/K kicker to a min-bet here.
                              why the hell would u make your opponent fold after making 2 pair with a small pot ?

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