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  • Is this chip dumping

    I have sent this Hand History to PokerStars asking them this question

    PokerStars Game #63803600413: Tournament #398677934, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/06/26 8:12:30 ET
    Table '398677934 240' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: 171280 (5290 in chips)
    Seat 2: Balya_Balya (3890 in chips)
    Seat 3: pepiiii10 (1470 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: BlufferHarry (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: alynush18 (3000 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 6: Bill Curran (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: suchka30 (1390 in chips)
    Seat 8: caliteros (1430 in chips)
    Seat 9: Frostok (1400 in chips)
    Balya_Balya: posts small blind 15
    pepiiii10: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Bill Curran [Qs 9c]
    BlufferHarry: folds
    alynush18: folds
    Bill Curran: folds
    suchka30: calls 30
    caliteros: folds
    Frostok: folds
    171280: raises 1050 to 1080
    Balya_Balya: folds
    pepiiii10: folds
    suchka30: raises 310 to 1390 and is all-in
    171280: folds
    Uncalled bet (310) returned to suchka30
    suchka30 collected 2205 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2205 | Rake 0
    Seat 1: 171280 (button) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Balya_Balya (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: pepiiii10 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: BlufferHarry folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: alynush18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Bill Curran folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: suchka30 collected (2205)
    Seat 8: caliteros folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Frostok folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Both these players are from the Ukraine, that is as far as my ability to player search takes me.
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  • #2
    looks pretty obvious to me that it is.. good catch Bill umbup:


    • #3
      Definitely a chip dump Bill. Open and shut case. The common nationality of the two players just nails it for me.


      • #4
        Just received an E.mail from support.

        They are launching a FULL investigation into relationships etc of the players involved and asking for proof of identity.

        This could take up to 2 weeks.

        They will let me know the outcome.
        3 Time Bracelet Winner


        • #5
          looks like ya bagged a few Billumbup:


          • #6
            I presume this wasn't a PSO game ?


            • #7
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Darkman61 View Post
                I presume this wasn't a PSO game ?

                No it wasn't , but we are getting a lot of Eastern Europeans joining, so just being vigilant.
                3 Time Bracelet Winner


                • #9
                  It certainly looks like a possible chip dump, and the same country of origin is more circumstantial evidence. I would say there's a high probability it is a chip dump

                  But let's not jump to conclusions, the probability is not 100%, we don't have all the facts. PokerStars is doing a full investigation, so they WILL have all the facts. Hole cards. How often they played together. If this has happened before. More specific location. Etc.

                  There are actually 2 legitimate reasons a player might fold to the shove there.

                  1) misclick
                  2) they're an idiot

                  Granted, those don't seem likely in this case, but they are not impossible. And before you read #2 and say c'mon, no one is that ridiculous, I just saw it LAST NIGHT.... in a live cash game (1-3 blinds). lol Limped pot, player bets 10 into 18 on the flop and gets called. On the turn he bets 20 and gets check-raised to 100. He calls, leaving himself $12 behind. The opponent bets the river and he snap folds. I guess he missed a draw and had something like 5 high, whatever. It was no mystery that he want through 6x $200 buy ins before leaving. #2 happens.

                  Again for clarity, it does look like a chip dump and TY to Bill for reporting it. Just saying, if Stars comes back clearing them, remember it IS possible that this was an innocent circumstance.
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                  • #10
                    1) misclick ; This has happened to me many times, (specially if playing 2-3 tables at once exp; PSO, astronomer freerolls etc) Another type of misclick is when some times I'm just about to check the check/call or the bet/raise check box, its changed to all in or raise (when speeds around to your turn again every one has either clicked check box's, too ), dam i think that's what i wasn't planing to do, some times i have won, but most time i haven't (I think people must think I'm Idiot for that call lol) so now i mostly wait to its my turn before fold/check/raise all thee best of luck/skillumbup:
                    Last edited by 0HighTimes0; Mon Jun 27, 2011, 06:17 AM.
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                    • #11
                      is this


                      • #12
                        What are we supposed to be looking at. The fact that you tried to give your chips away and failed ?


                        • #13
                          Spike - It looks like you misclicked before finishing your sentence!

                          Like Dman, I am confused. Nice that you caught the flush on the river, but not sure how the hand fits into the thread.

                          Would you clarify for us please?



                          • #14
                            I was being obtuse
                            about my failure to get rid of all my chips
                            Hey D'man
                            Like you wouldn't have shoved in my position with a suited A with just over 3xbb left


                            • #15
                              I may well have done actually

                              The strange thing about the skill league is that there are times when it makes more sense to shove with a weak hand from early position than it would from the button



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