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    STUPID??

    Seven of my last nine PSO games I have busted out early, each time but one with the best hand and all were pair over pair. Even the tourney's I managed to get deeper in, it was still pair over pair losses.

    All playing really aggressive players with no worries about stack retention...Which should probably tell me something.

    Question is, I guess, should I be folding period and protecting my stack?? Or do I play what I believe is the best hand?? Do not have hand history to show but most were pre-flop or post while still maintaining the lead, post flop.

    Should be clear that I do not ~want~ to be playing all in type of stakes, but really no option except folding.

    Thanks,

    Dale

    Some examples,

    AA loses to 2 2...10 10 loses to 88...AA loses to 5 5... JJ loses to 9 9...ect...Sorry one was AK losing to AQ
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  • #2
    you're pushing way too much, too early... it seems to me. AA, I can understand, but the others should not be pushes preflop. If pushed with the others, they really should be mucked preflop.

    You only want your chips in early when you know you have the best hand after seven cards, not two.
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    • #3
      So, facing a re-raise with QQ knowing the player has played just about everyhand and making the right decision on whether I was ahead is wrong? My reads were correct, but did not matter in the end.

      Hard to figure I was wrong when 8 out of 9 times I did go all-in with the best hand.

      But, busting out is not working out either.
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      • #4
        Today's 300pm tourney.

        One fella has about 8k in chips after about 15 mins of tourney time. Has raised pre-flop most hands.
        I have JJ in mid position and limp this time. He raises. I call his raise. Flop comes 2 6 9 nice for my JJ.

        Knowing he raises or calls everything, I shove. Folded around now heads up. He shows K 9 off.
        Looks good for me until the turn shows another 9.

        How else does one play the hand facing that kind of opponent. With top pair he was going to raise, would have ended up in a showdown whether or not I shove first.

        Not saying I have the answers, looking for some though on, let us say, for this hand only.

        Wonder who the donk is....

        Dale
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        • #5
          Damn if I had all them pocket pairs in one game I would never lose

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          • #6
            That is just over the last two and a half days.....Sounds real good but sure didn't turn out that way.

            Dale
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            • #7
              Originally posted by dale442 View Post
              So, facing a re-raise with QQ knowing the player has played just about everyhand and making the right decision on whether I was ahead is wrong? My reads were correct, but did not matter in the end.

              Hard to figure I was wrong when 8 out of 9 times I did go all-in with the best hand.

              But, busting out is not working out either.
              First thing I'd do is to just call the raise (if it doesn't pot commit me) and make sure that no overcards are on the board.

              Early in a tourney, especially a PSO, where the risks well outweigh the rewards early... you need to not be pushing untill you see all 7 cards.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by dale442 View Post
                Today's 300pm tourney.

                One fella has about 8k in chips after about 15 mins of tourney time. Has raised pre-flop most hands.
                I have JJ in mid position and limp this time. He raises. I call his raise. Flop comes 2 6 9 nice for my JJ.

                Knowing he raises or calls everything, I shove. Folded around now heads up. He shows K 9 off.
                Looks good for me until the turn shows another 9.

                How else does one play the hand facing that kind of opponent. With top pair he was going to raise, would have ended up in a showdown whether or not I shove first.

                Not saying I have the answers, looking for some though on, let us say, for this hand only.

                Wonder who the donk is....

                Dale
                Don't shove in that situation until you see all 5 cards. Bet, yes, but don't shove. 15 min into a tourney that you need to last over 2 hrs in to get ITM, you don't want to push until you see all the cards. It looks like you're trying to get too many chips, too quickly..... the best thing you can do is to learn to be patient.
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                • #9
                  Dale because of the very nature of the point system in PSO and how EVERY tournament is connected to the bigger picture +/- EV considerations are completely different than anything you're likely to face in cash MTT/SNG plays.

                  Thinking of PSO tourneys as satellites is a good rule of thumb.

                  Survival is paramount,all other considerations are secondary.
                  Last edited by Moxie Pip; Sat Jun 25, 2011, 12:38 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Not really trying go get ahead early, just play when I believe I have the best hand. Stayed in the top ten for most of the month, playing pretty much the same, Best hand should win more often than it has lately....Or have I been more impatient lately when I do realize I need it more than the beginning of the month.

                    Thanks,

                    Dale
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dale442 View Post
                      Or have I been more impatient lately when I do realize I need it more than the beginning of the month.

                      Thanks,

                      Dale
                      I think you've got it... you're pressing too much, it seems. We've all been there, just need to learn from it.
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                      • #12
                        I so suck at this bloody game.

                        530pm game...

                        Have KJ h, flop comes Q 9 6, two hearts. Straight and flush draws. Players next to me zips...I call like a moron, but with a ton of outs. Long story short...I now have the time to post this

                        Dale
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                        • #13
                          Thinking one of two things here.

                          I believe I am TAG. Fold good hands out of position or when facing a big raise. Do not think that has changed from the beginning of the month.

                          Either I was blessed by the poker gods for the first three weeks of the month, or, getting dumped on for the last 3 or so days. Which one?
                          Being a very analyitical guy, it is driving me nuts. I am not sure.

                          How true is the statement "Getting it all in with the best hand" really apply?? Even in the last hand mentioned above, I was a slight fav ( I think) against the set of queens my opponent had. Thirteen possible outs with the turn and the river to go...Still not where I should have been though.

                          Maybe have to play better so that I have less time to post here....

                          Dale
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dale442 View Post
                            Either I was blessed by the poker gods for the first three weeks of the month, or, getting dumped on for the last 3 or so days. Which one?

                            Dale
                            BOTH. I've had months with runs like that.... but mine was the 29th-31st of a month. At least you've got a few days to try and make up for it.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dale442 View Post
                              I so suck at this bloody game.

                              530pm game...

                              Have KJ h, flop comes Q 9 6, two hearts. Straight and flush draws. Players next to me zips...I call like a moron, but with a ton of outs. Long story short...I now have the time to post this

                              Dale
                              Assuming suits on the flop... put in Q and 6 of hearts..... you are a 2-1 DOG with those cards. You're leaving out that if the board pairs, regardless of whether you hit a flush or straight, you'd lose.
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