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  • Help Me Understand xBB/100 Winrate

    Alright, so I'm a little new to understanding how winrate works. I have a few questions, and I hope someone can help out.

    What does the x/100 figure mean? (e.g. if I have a winrate of 1BB/100)

    What is a good sample size of hands to get an accurate read of my winrate?

    What is generally considered an average winrate, and what is considered a really good winrate?

    How can I use my winrate stats to analyze my game, or decide when to move up/down stakes?

    What other info should I know about winrate?

    Thanks guys.
    Last edited by fadmin; Fri Apr 22, 2011, 11:10 AM.

  • #2
    bb/100 means either # of Big Blinds won per 100 hands, or BB/100 is number of Big Bets won (for fixed limit) per 100 hands. I think the average is something like 2-5 BB/100 for fixed limit

    Big Bet = the big blind for fixed limit

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    • #3
      Yay. Thanks.

      So, my HEM should be showing big blinds/100 hands, at least for my NLHE stats, I assume.

      Now I'm curious how I interpret the stats, and how I can use them to develop my game.

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      • #4
        My guess is 100,000+ hands might be a reasonable sample size. I have atleast 30,000 hands at 5NL and I don't think it is accurate at all. I haven't tried checking what it is, but I have run so bad for those 30,000 hands I know for a fact it is way off.

        Also, the less tables you play at a time the sample size can probably be slightly smaller. If your playing 12+ tables at a time I would want atleast 100,000 hands to feel really secure about the results.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PanickyPoker View Post
          Yay. Thanks.

          So, my HEM should be showing big blinds/100 hands, at least for my NLHE stats, I assume.

          Now I'm curious how I interpret the stats, and how I can use them to develop my game.
          agree w/ aarocker panicky about tables. But maybe this will help. I heard it said a long time ago that 27,000 hands was about what was needed to get the luck factor to almost 0%. So, I'd say at least 30K in hands before you make any solid decisions on analysis. -Cookies

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          • #6
            Alright. I'll aim for 30k hands at my present limit before making any major analysis. That'll probably take six months though, since I'm back to one-tabling.



            Anyone know what a good winrate is, btw?

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            • #7
              what level are you playing? 2nl 10 BB is pretty easy

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PanickyPoker View Post
                Anyone know what a good winrate is, btw?
                In the old PSO, Dave (TheLangolier) wrote a blog about his quest for 10bb/100 at (I believe) 50 & 100 NL over a year.

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                • #9
                  50NL. I've been playing it for the past few days with good results, but I only have 1k hands.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TrumpinJoe View Post
                    In the old PSO, Dave (TheLangolier) wrote a blog about his quest for 10bb/100 at (I believe) 50 & 100 NL over a year.
                    Then I must really be running good. Maybe I'll try something similar, once I've gotten a read on whether or not I can sustain my wins.

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                    • #11
                      you are playing 50nl with 150 bankroll?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PanickyPoker View Post
                        Anyone know what a good winrate is, btw?
                        That's easy the answer 1bb/100 or more
                        Over 90% of all poker players lose money so if your average bb/100 is anything more than 0 then you are doing well over 5 your doing great over 10 your up with the semi-pros 20+ what the hell you doing here.

                        (my current is 5.14bb/100 from 2209 tacked hands so only another 35,000 hands to track to find my place in the poker world)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by roomik17 View Post
                          you are playing 50nl with 150 bankroll?
                          Nope. My roll's a bit bigger than that. I don't see much reason to grind lower limits when I'm rarely booking losses. If my winrate starts swinging down, I'll consider dropping back to 25NL.

                          And that's a good answer, badbuddie. I guess a 1BB/100 winrate is pretty good, unless that's before rake.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PanickyPoker View Post
                            Then I must really be running good. Maybe I'll try something similar, once I've gotten a read on whether or not I can sustain my wins.
                            Too small a sample size. For limit the average if 3bb an hour. But, i can't tell ya for NL. nor for online, nor for /100 as I don't have the sample size yet.

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                            • #15
                              I am in the middle of reading a poker article on a poker news related website and there is an online cash pro 'Taylor Caby' talking about sample sizes. He feels a good sample size for cash games would be about 250,000 hands. He was answering a question related to what considerations need to be made to quit your day job and play poker professionally. So my guess is that number is a bit on the high end, as you want to be REALLY secure in your win rate before quiting your day job.

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