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1.1$ - 6-max Turbo - I find this hand interesting

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  • 1.1$ - 6-max Turbo - I find this hand interesting

    Hey guys,

    So I had this hand which I find particularly interesting :
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    PokerStars Game 113100169783 / Tournament
    Table 877043114 148 -
    Blinds : 25/50
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    6 players
    [SB] Villain 1 (3230)
    [BB] shoim (2800)
    [1] Villain 2 (2570)
    [2] Villain 3 (2738)
    [3] Villain 4 (3485)
    [But] Villain 5 (4925)

    shoim 5 Q Initial Pot: 75

    Villain 2 folds
    Villain 3 calls 50
    Villain 4 folds
    Villain 5 calls 50
    Villain 1 folds
    shoim checks
    ### FLOP ### Q 9 A Pot: 175
    shoim bets 115
    Villain 3 calls 115
    Villain 5 calls 115
    ### TURN ### A Pot: 520
    shoim checks
    Villain 3 bets 150
    Villain 5 raises to 550

    Now, your action would've been ?
    Villain 5 in particular didn't strike me to be Phil Ivey or any of the kind, rather maniac but only after 13 hands, in which he almost busted with T2s calling a hefty raise in BB. Not much info on Villain 3.

    So ? What have you done here, specially presented with the turn odds ?

    Thanks and Regards,
    Shoim.

  • #2
    Hi shoim! Preflop, I'm absolutely going to check and see a free flop, as my Q5s is nowhere near strong enough to do anything else with. I flop second pair, but having limped preflop, I'm going to check the flop. The reason why is that if I had an A, 99 or QQ, I should be raising preflop, so a bet here cannot represent an A nor a set and due to this, I need to check. What I'm hoping for is that both opps check behind. If so, then I'll make a standard value bet on the turn. The problem with a flop like this is that many opps (no reads provided) like to play any A. If either of these opps fits into this category, I'm not ahead, so I don't want to bet. The turn check here also doesn't make sense. If I lead the flop, I'm saying that I have an A, but now on the turn when a second A hits.. I'm checking and saying that I don't have one. While I may call the bet of 150, I'm not calling a large raise and need to muck. When playing, I need to take consistent lines that make sense when playing a hand. If not, then this will be easily picked up on by observant opponents and exploited. If I check pre, then I need to check the flop (will call a small bet) and then to lead the turn. Any other line does not make sense, as it's not consistent. Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.umbup: John (JWK24)
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    • #3
      Hey J,

      Thanks so much for the reply !
      Ok, about consistency, you are right, and I am familiar with the concept, check>raising or c-betting and all ... BUT ! I am faced with 2 villains, I am OOP, and I am aggressive++ I have an image to maintain at a micro buy-in 6-max in the early stage and I am faced by 2 floaters both of which are loose (2 less than 5< which was the crazy dude to defend BB second hand in the tourney with that awsome T2s)
      I ran some simulations after the hand and my figures showed me a 3-1 underdog under various Ax like scenarios or 99s, Q9+ etc.

      Point is - i folded that turn (the hand is not complete), but I am not still happy with it

      Thank you for the reply,
      Kind regards,
      Shoim.

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      • #4
        Leading into multiple opps when the board can easily hit them and I'm most likely behind is a huge leak (gusher would be more like it). Against one opp (if they're known not to stay with any A), I would do, but not into two opps and certainly not into 2 unknowns.

        If the opps are playing a 20% range (baseline for no info for me).. I'm a 3-1 dog. I do not want to be betting into multiple opps when I'm this far behind, it's just throwing my chips in the air and telling the opps.. "please take them, I don't want them!"

        In a tourney, I'd rather have a stack in front of me, instead of trying to build and keep a table image by throwing chips away.

        John (JWK24)
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        6 Time Bracelet Winner


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