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  • 1.5k gt

    2 out of 14...... about 89000k chips blinds 10k/20k
    ..... utg get KK raise to 40k button shoves for 600k, i call he shows AJ and catches an ace....

    been thinking about this hand i was very comfortable playing so deep seeing flops, playing in position and was chipping up nicely
    i know sounds crazy to fold but he could have had AA or hand like this and that happen.....
    with knowing this could i have just folded and carried on just playing flops?

  • #2
    Originally posted by hendo30 View Post
    i know sounds crazy to fold but he could have had AA or hand like this and that happen.....
    with knowing this could i have just folded and carried on just playing flops?

    it sounds crazy and its is crazy, here's why
    you have <5BB
    KK is a MUNNNNNNNSTer, you should not be folding KK preflop in most mtts/sngs
    especially shortstacked

    and you mention carry on playing flops? this sounds like a huge leak, you need to learn to adopt a shove/fold mode when your stack gets too short otherwise you will be putting yourself in bad spots time and time again

    note: this is not a bad spot, shove pre would be standard but minraise is fine if people fall for it

    dont worry about the results just be happy you got it in wayyyy ahead








    edit: - did you post the hand wrong? you say youre coming 2/14 but you have 90k and villain has 600k


    edit 2: if you have 900k and have villain covered, this is still a really easy call and super profitable for you. awful shove by villain and unlucky that he donked you
    Last edited by ouchbadbeat; Sat Jan 11, 2014, 02:42 PM.

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    • #3
      Only 1 hand beats you here. Getting it in at this stage with KK is never a fold.

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      • #4
        little confused wasn't short stacked blinds were 10k/20k and i had close to 900k?
        as for the see flops thing dont think i explained things right....
        was raising, using my stack and throwing in a few cold 3bets..... kinda meant when i did see a flop felt comfortable......
        kinda knew that i had to get it in with the KK..... just felt that playing well and did i need to risk it..... as it was finished 7th so not all bad

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hendo30 View Post
          little confused wasn't short stacked blinds were 10k/20k and i had close to 900k? as for the see flops thing dont think i explained things right.... was raising, using my stack and throwing in a few cold 3bets..... kinda meant when i did see a flop felt comfortable...... kinda knew that i had to get it in with the KK..... just felt that playing well and did i need to risk it..... as it was finished 7th so not all bad
          i gave a dud reply because i read the hand as 89000 with 890000 playing flops/being lag pre is perfectly fine umbup: and yeah just one of those spots you have to take, QQ would be closer and you could possibly find a fold vs a really tight villain but KK is just too good to fold - if he has aces you still win 20% of the time and what's more important is vs his entire reshove range, KK plays extremely well wp

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          • #6
            a right with you now... dont think i helped with my description

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            • #7
              Even with no read KK is a snapcall here 30BB effective since you aim for the victory and only AA beats you. Btw you'll almost never face an AA here, cause even the worst players (like shove 30BB with AJ againts an UTG raise) just simply 3bets here and let you in the hand for more value.

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