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  • Quads Getting Paid?

    Hey guys,

    This is a hand from early-middle stages of the weekly round 2 NLH. Blinds are 75/150 and we are down to ~2200 players with top 990 getting paid (216th gets $1.02, which is my minimum target).

    I am UTG with JJ. I make a raise to 395. It folds around to BB and he calls.

    I have ~6k and he has ~3k.


    I have seen 25% of flops after ~55 hands, winning 3/3 at showdown. Villain is slightly LAG from what I have seen (max 20 hands due to tables moving). We have played 2 hands previously - I was BB and flopped 2-pair and bet flop and took it down on the turn. He then min-raised into me on D button and he C-bet won it on the flop.

    Ok, so I am in position and not too worried atm.

    Flop comes K, J, 6 with 2 clubs.


    Villain leads for 150 into a pot of roughly 1k. I know I have to raise here as the board is fairly connected and his donk-block type bet does scream flush / straight draw.

    I decided to make a very small raise, partly to encourage him to ship over the top but also partly because I didn't want to lose a customer.

    I raised to 595 and he called quickly.

    Turn is another J, giving me quads. Bingo.


    He leads again, also for 150. He has ~1800 behind. I chose to flat here, hoping he could catch his straight / flush draw.


    River is a non-club 5. He leads for 300. I take a bit of time and raise to 1445. After a long pause, he folds.


    1. Would you have played the hand differently?

    2. How could I have got his last 1500 chips into the middle? I felt raising both flop and turn would seem too strong, but maybe my river raise was too big?


    Thanks,

    James

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    Hi James! I see one way to get more chips into the pot immediately and that's preflop. With any hand that I want to open with, I'll make a std raise, which for this blind level is to 3BB+1BB for each limper, or 450. Also, by getting more chips in preflop will allow for larger and larger bets after the flop, as I will want to be sizing my bets as a % of what is in the pot already. The flop gives me middle set, but has a flush draw and possible OESD/flush draw. What is the pot size and how many opps are in it? This info is crucial for knowing what to bet on the flop, as I need to raise enough to price ALL of the opps out of ALL the draws that they may have. With a combo draw, I need to make more than a 1/2 pot raise, but depending on the number of opps, I may need to raise 2/3's, 3/4's or a full pot size raise. If there is only one opp in the hand, I'll pick 2/3's pot, but if there are more, then I need to bet more. When the turn gives me quads, I'm just calling and hoping the opp hits a better hand on the river. On the river, I want to raise whatever amount that I think the opp will call. It's not always going to be an all-in, as many opps can be scared off by a shove or a bet that will put them all-in and has to be a bet size that makes sense with the way the rest of the hand has played out. With bets at 595 or below, all of a sudden raising to 1445 is a bet that looks fishy, as it's much larger than the others, while the pot hasn't grown by the same %'s..... it just doesn't look right. By making better bet sizes preflop and on the flop, there will be more chips in the pot and will make the opp calling a larger river bet an easier play for them. Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.umbup: John (JWK24)
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