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  • you need to keep your stack healthy-$11R(70k)

    healthy stack for me is 10BB's here it's good that I have Axs UTG i don't care if i get called and lose because im bound to anyway and im going to lose another blind the next hand so i shove and hope don't get called
    Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
    and then the next hand is this
    Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
    lucky i guess now i got 20bb's can play poker for a while lesson here is - if your 10-12BB you need to shove any 2 in position when it's open even with 72o don't wait to get blinded out. Just don't wait much longer you've waited enough you need at least 10BB to have fold equity, any lower than that you will get called by any random hand. i want to share this one because i can see a lot of our members just keep on waiting for premium until they get blinded out to around 5BB, this is wrong your not taking advantage of your position and your fold equity. with 10BB's your bound to lose anyway why not lose fighting. it's better to lose fighting than just by surrendering your blinds let's protect our chips that's our tournament life i hope this helps

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    less than 10bb's it's open to you just shove your bound to lose anyway why wait any longer and pray
    Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
    good chip up without risk

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    • #3
      Originally posted by marvinsytan View Post
      less than 10bb's it's open to you just shove your bound to lose anyway why wait any longer and pray
      Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
      good chip up without risk
      maybe good play (maybe perfect, but you provide no reads, history, game flow, etc) but why,exactly is it without risk ??
      17 Time Bracelet Winner

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      • #4
        Originally posted by marvinsytan View Post
        lesson here is - if your 10-12BB you need to shove any 2 in position when it's open even with 72o don't wait to get blinded out. Just don't wait much longer you've waited enough you need at least 10BB to have fold equity, any lower than that you will get called by any random hand.
        I think you need to learn a lot more about the shove/fold game. The only time I ever shove 72o, is when it's folded to me in the SB, I have like 5BB and the BB is an absolute nit.

        It's good to see that your willing to make shoves in position and from early position when the blinds are about to hit but it is not with just ATC. The first hand isn't too bad, you have the A blocker.. but you need to make your decision to shove based on your image, how light they are calling off and also targetting the shorter stacks (not crippled stacks) as this will increase fold equity.

        The last hand is wayyyyyyyy to loose, but again it depends on tournament structure, image etc. I'd rather shove with 98s, 9Ts you will more than likely have live cards. You will see 2 more hands before the blinds, if you don't pick up anything that you can shove... then you can shove with ATC but at least in position.

        I had a good shove/fold chart from a while back, I'll try to find it and post it here.

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        • #5
          again down to my 12BB it's open i take it
          Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
          chip up without risk win the pot 2 ways if i get called and lose im bound to lose anyway here we keep fighting this is my point

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          • #6
            Originally posted by marvinsytan View Post
            again down to my 12BB it's open i take it
            Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
            chip up without risk win the pot 2 ways if i get called and lose im bound to lose anyway here we keep fighting this is my point
            position is better here, again, why without risk ?
            17 Time Bracelet Winner

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            • #7
              without risk because no one called

              winning the pot 2 ways this is important lesson our Great Teacher told me

              i don't care if it's too loose let's see if they have the guts to call me with ace high so far no one has the guts because i keep my stacks healthy even if they are ahead they don't know if they are going to win

              now bubble time if i didn't do all the stealing im not making it in the money

              im bound to lose anyway can't wait for a hand cause it's not coming why not give yourself a chance and get called and hope that you have 2 live cards and you'll never know

              i never have a good hand except for the AK that's is so so long ago

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              • #8
                Originally posted by marvinsytan View Post
                without risk because no one called

                you knew that before ?
                17 Time Bracelet Winner

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                • #9
                  During current Hold'em session you were dealt 176 hands and saw flop:
                  - 4 out of 21 times while in big blind (19%)
                  - 1 out of 19 times while in small blind (5%)
                  - 5 out of 136 times in other positions (3%)
                  - a total of 10 out of 176 (5%)
                  Pots won at showdown - 6 of 7 (85%)
                  Pots won without showdown - 9

                  im in the money and here is my stats the whole game i dont really have that much of a hand but
                  if i go to showdown i make sure i win it.

                  if not for the stealing im not going to make the money this is my point of keeping your stack healthy

                  and 10BB is healthy any lower than that will be called by any random hand

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                  • #10
                    this time i got called
                    Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
                    and i lost but im doomed anyways so without a hand a made the money that's poker you can't win if you always wait for a big hand to come

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                    • #11
                      hi marvin,

                      please don't take this the wrong way, i value your involvement, but,

                      i think opening a thread with such an 'instructional' title and then posting hands as if they are the bees knees, is a little dangerous, some people might take it at face value.

                      these are your opinions, they may be 100 % correct,maybe not.

                      personally i think you made a few mistakes in the hands above but maybe i'm wrong.

                      however, i believe having a title like in a lot of the other threads opening a debate is much better.

                      kind regards

                      django
                      17 Time Bracelet Winner

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Django66 View Post
                        hi marvin,

                        please don't take this the wrong way, i value your involvement, but,

                        i think opening a thread with such an 'instructional' title and then posting hands as if they are the bees knees, is a little dangerous, some people might take it at face value.

                        these are your opinions, they may be 100 % correct,maybe not.

                        personally i think you made a few mistakes in the hands above but maybe i'm wrong.

                        however, i believe having a title like in a lot of the other threads opening a debate is much better.

                        kind regards

                        django
                        i value opinions of other people openly

                        very much appreciated

                        this is my style and i want our teachers to correct me on my play i just want analysis if this is the right path

                        if its not how do to it right

                        your saying i have mistake here tell me i want to know so that i can correct it

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                        • #13
                          well,

                          there are better people to analyze in depth and verbose and i'm deepin a tourney + playing cash, so can't make a detailed response, but, as i said before, for example there clearly was a risk when you said there was none.

                          but it's all opinions and there are no absolutes in poker, so, maybe i'm wrong on the analysis but i just feel, as a student, it's wrong to state that some particular play is definitely correct,

                          all the best
                          17 Time Bracelet Winner

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                          • #14
                            Hi All! Django, You are absolutely correct in that there is not a single way to play a poker hand. The same hands can be played multiple ways, depnding on a large number of factors, such as play style, type of tourney, stacks, position, table image and many others. Multiple people will play the same hand in the same situation differently.... and all can be correct. Marvin, Here's what my style would be for these hands, please note that I play more conservative than others in many instances. For the A6 clubs hand, this is a standard shove in a cash tourney for me with less than 10BB. AK hand, with basically 10BB left and if the 3rd opp doesn't call, extra dead chips in the pot, I'm shoving here too. J6 off from mid position I would instantly fold, even with a 9BB stack. I'd want to find a better spot, in postion, or with better cards, to shove. 10 2 suited with 12BB from late position, that's borderline for my style. If I had an extremely tight table image, had not been stealing much and had not shown anything but a premium hand at this table, I might try it. Otherwise, I'm folding and looking for a better situation. 78 off with 7.5BB from mid position is a bit light for my style too and due to that, I'm folding. Hope this helps everyone. Good luck at the tablesumbup: John (JWK24)
                            Super-Moderator



                            6 Time Bracelet Winner


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
                              Hi All! Django, You are absolutely correct in that there is not a single way to play a poker hand. The same hands can be played multiple ways, depnding on a large number of factors, such as play style, type of tourney, stacks, position, table image and many others. Multiple people will play the same hand in the same situation differently.... and all can be correct. Marvin, Here's what my style would be for these hands, please note that I play more conservative than others in many instances. For the A6 clubs hand, this is a standard shove in a cash tourney for me with less than 10BB. AK hand, with basically 10BB left and if the 3rd opp doesn't call, extra dead chips in the pot, I'm shoving here too. J6 off from mid position I would instantly fold, even with a 9BB stack. I'd want to find a better spot, in postion, or with better cards, to shove. 10 2 suited with 12BB from late position, that's borderline for my style. If I had an extremely tight table image, had not been stealing much and had not shown anything but a premium hand at this table, I might try it. Otherwise, I'm folding and looking for a better situation. 78 off with 7.5BB from mid position is a bit light for my style too and due to that, I'm folding. Hope this helps everyone. Good luck at the tablesumbup: John (JWK24)
                              thank you sir

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