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    i dont want to value bet my nut flush cause im out of position dont like to be put in bad spot this is deep stack did i play this hand right dont want to be greedy happy to win the pot because my flush paired the board

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    While the turn brought the one spade you didn't want to see, I think you need to value bet the river here after checking the flop.

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    • #3
      I really don't care for how you played this hand at all. You are leaving way too much value on the table checking the turn and river. I think talking about not being greedy is simply a justification for the play, but it has no basis in sound strategy (btw, poker is a greedy game, when you're playing a hand every action you take is designed to be "greedy" ). There is very little chance either opponent has a full house, but you can absolutely extract value from many worse hands and should definitely be value betting the river here, in not immediately betting on the turn (I'd bet the turn personally).

      The preflop call is fine, but on the flop a check/call line is not optimal imo. You could lead at this board as a semibluff. Or, this is a great spot to check-raise all in. The preflop raiser c-bets, by check-raise jamming you are leveraging fold equity and will take down the pot immediately without having to improve a decent % of the time, and when you do get called you'll have anywhere from 9 to 15 outs in the vast majority of cases, good hand equity vs. their calling ranges. Check-raise jamming the flop is much more +EV than check-calling, which is likely -EV actually.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
        I really don't care for how you played this hand at all. You are leaving way too much value on the table checking the turn and river. I think talking about not being greedy is simply a justification for the play, but it has no basis in sound strategy (btw, poker is a greedy game, when you're playing a hand every action you take is designed to be "greedy" ). There is very little chance either opponent has a full house, but you can absolutely extract value from many worse hands and should definitely be value betting the river here, in not immediately betting on the turn (I'd bet the turn personally).

        The preflop call is fine, but on the flop a check/call line is not optimal imo. You could lead at this board as a semibluff. Or, this is a great spot to check-raise all in. The preflop raiser c-bets, by check-raise jamming you are leveraging fold equity and will take down the pot immediately without having to improve a decent % of the time, and when you do get called you'll have anywhere from 9 to 15 outs in the vast majority of cases, good hand equity vs. their calling ranges. Check-raise jamming the flop is much more +EV than check-calling, which is likely -EV actually.

        very helpful

        tnx Dave

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TrumpinJoe View Post
          While the turn brought the one spade you didn't want to see, I think you need to value bet the river here after checking the flop.
          next time i will value bet why am i so afraid of the full when the action is hey no one got a full the all check..

          ok need to improve

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