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i allways lose it and push all in

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    PokerStars Game #71369071724: Tournament #549011323, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2011/11/30 22:52:13 NZT [2011/11/30 4:52:13 ET]
    Table '549011323 80' 9-max Seat #2 is the button

    iam cyclonia

    Seat 3: cyclonia (8115 in chips)
    Seat 4: Wonderdino (3717 in chips)
    WallterBish: posts small blind 50
    cyclonia: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to cyclonia [As Ah]
    Wonderdino: calls 100
    XTEHBX: folds
    sexana24: folds
    Azzaro-Jano: calls 100
    fishingtrip2: folds
    nut$ihno: folds
    Tigre742: folds
    WallterBish: calls 50
    cyclonia: raises 300 to 400
    Wonderdino: calls 300
    Azzaro-Jano: calls 300
    WallterBish: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** [3s 5c 8c]
    WallterBish: checks
    cyclonia: bets 700
    Wonderdino: raises 2607 to 3307 and is all-in
    Azzaro-Jano: folds
    WallterBish: folds
    cyclonia: calls 2607
    *** TURN *** [3s 5c 8c] [4d]
    *** RIVER *** [3s 5c 8c 4d] [7d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    cyclonia: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
    Wonderdino: shows [6c 7c] (a straight, Four to Eight)
    Wonderdino collected 8304 from pot


    Seat 3: cyclonia (3743 in chips)
    Seat 7: Azzaro-Jano (4260 in chips)
    posts the ante 15
    cyclonia: posts small blind 60
    Wonderdino: posts big blind 120
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to cyclonia [Jh Kh]
    Damonator79: folds
    sexana24: folds
    Azzaro-Jano: calls 120
    fishingtrip2: folds
    nut$ihno: folds
    Tigre742: folds
    WallterBish: folds
    cyclonia: calls 60
    Wonderdino: checks
    *** FLOP *** [6s Jc 7s]
    Wonderdino said, "called bec K9s and good PotOdds"
    cyclonia: bets 360
    Wonderdino: folds
    cyclonia said, "yea 4sure if i had ur stack i call"
    Azzaro-Jano: raises 960 to 1320
    cyclonia: calls 960
    *** TURN *** [6s Jc 7s] [4c]
    cyclonia: bets 2288 and is all-in
    Azzaro-Jano: calls 2288
    *** RIVER *** [6s Jc 7s 4c] [Qh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    cyclonia: shows [Jh Kh] (a pair of Jacks)
    Azzaro-Jano: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
    Azzaro-Jano collected 7711 from pot
    cyclonia finished the tournament in 599th place
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7711 | Rake 0
    Board [6s Jc 7s 4c Qh]
    Seat 3: cyclonia (small blind) showed [Jh Kh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 7: Azzaro-Jano showed [Ah Ad] and won (7711) with a pair of Aces

    I NEED ALOT OF HELP WITH MY GAME PLEAZ FEEL THE NEED TO tell me how to play and messages me if u wont to hav a new poker student cheers guys
    Last edited by cyclonia; Wed Nov 30, 2011, 12:28 PM.

  • #2
    Please dont use caps that much, I think your best bet is to start with the courses, understand the basics and watch some of the starter videos.

    first hand is just UL you gave him no odds to call but he did and he hit his out.

    second hand should just have been check/folded on the turn.


    • #3
      First, welcome to the forum! In the future, if you have the entire hand history of the one that you'd like anlayzed, then you can also use the hand replayer (click on the tools link at the top of the page) and here is a link on the instructions for using it. It will give us more info from seeing the hand and can get you a better reply on the hands... from us having the additional info.

      In the first hand with AA, the thing you need to do is to raise more preflop. You had 2 limpers plus the small blind complete (basically a 3rd limp). A standard raise for this would be to 3BB + 1BB for each limper (in this case that would be 6BB or 600). The stack sizes for the others that limped would be good information to include too... because depending on what they are, I'd maybe even raise a bit more than to 600 (even shoved then, depending on the others stack sizes).
      AA plays better against a lower number of hands and a larger raise may have gotten some of the others to drop. On the flop... your opponent had every right to raise your bet, as they were actually the favorite in the hand at that point (56% of the time they will beat your aces, with the flop that happened and their hold cards).
      That's an unlucky hand, but you did price them into the hand to see the flop, by not raising more preflop.

      In the second one, you just limped into the hand preflop. Normally, when playing a hand, especially if you're going to be out of position after the flop, you need to either fold, or raise preflop. Instead of just calling the BB amount, raise to 2.5-3BB. If you get re-raised, then your opponent will probably have you beat and you can fold then (losing minimum chips). Also, what you do not want to do is to shove when you may or may not have the best hand. In this case, while you did have top pair, there are a number of hands that have already beat you.... an overpair, or anyone with a higher card than a J could also draw to and pair their higher card on the river, or anyone with 35 or 58 has a straight.

      One thing that you'll need to learn is that there are 7 cards in hold'em. your 2 and the 5 on the board. It's not the best hand at the time that wins.. it's the best hand after all 7 cards are revealed and you don't want to push until you know that you have the best hand.
      Please take a look at the courses here (tab at the top of page) and also the videos (tab at the top of page). You can and will learn ALOT from watching them, also the live training sessions (also tab at the top of the page... along with this forum. You're always welcome to put any hand that's played in here to be analyzed.

      6 Time Bracelet Winner


      • #4
        cool thankz guys i know i played them wrong i just wonted to how the best way to play it so thank you very much 4 letting me know i hope to get as much training sessions in that i can and ill rember this kind of play 4 next time thanks heps hope to pick ur brain more in the future


        • #5
          Hey cyclonia, welcome to PSO and the forum. umbup: As you see, there's lots of knowledgeable, helpful people around. Here's some tips for those getting started here in PSO. After you have a look, please let us know if you have any questions on anything. Look forward to seeing you around.


          • #6
            Hi Cyclonia,

            if you cant wait to get in to some trainings the trainers here are kind enough to tape the lessons. you can find some great ones here.


            if you have a certain area you would like to start with have a look else maybe start with......


            (sort picked at random but also is next one i will revisit)

            Another good thing to do is browse the hand analysis forum. Some of us have (like you) put hands up and have had great advice from the folks here.

            find that here

            if the worst happens and you have a question,

            create a post and ask it, chances are you will get 4 or 5 replies inside of a day.

            Grade b
            I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

            13 Time Bracelet Winner



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