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  • Bad beats with full houses

    Always same thing,make profit on 2-3 session than break with full houses...like this.I m be on pot,so i thinkink myself after he reraise,he probably have nines,because why someone in EP play K7 or K9...no sense.What player must be to play K7o,this happend several times,dont know how keep my profit on bankroll,because i always magicly break,like one situation with set aces vs poker J,Takes all my profit


    PokerStars Zoom Hand #117630430342: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2014/06/17 12:24:38 CET [2014/06/17 6:24:38 ET]
    Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: ecasino188 ($3 in chips)
    Seat 2: Dragan Ds ($5.19 in chips)
    Seat 3: miamia78 ($3.63 in chips)
    Seat 4: Black Swoon ($5 in chips)
    Seat 5: toldufold ($2.34 in chips)
    Seat 6: Gaba17111987 ($4.51 in chips)
    Seat 7: xtrmn8r111 ($5.65 in chips)
    Seat 8: Bru77e ($5.49 in chips)
    Seat 9: boxxyusee ($6.20 in chips)
    Dragan Ds: posts small blind $0.02
    miamia78: posts big blind $0.05
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to miamia78 [4d Ks]
    Black Swoon: folds
    toldufold: folds
    Gaba17111987: folds
    xtrmn8r111: calls $0.05
    Bru77e: folds
    boxxyusee: folds
    ecasino188: folds
    Dragan Ds: folds
    miamia78: checks
    *** FLOP *** [4h Kc Kd]
    miamia78: checks
    xtrmn8r111: checks
    *** TURN *** [4h Kc Kd] [7c]
    miamia78: checks
    xtrmn8r111: bets $0.05miamia78: calls $0.05
    *** RIVER *** [4h Kc Kd 7c] [9h]
    miamia78: bets $1.20
    xtrmn8r111: raises $4.35 to $5.55 and is all-in
    miamia78: calls $2.33 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($2.02) returned to xtrmn8r111
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    xtrmn8r111: shows [Kh 7h] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
    miamia78: shows [4d Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Fours)
    xtrmn8r111 collected $6.98 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $7.28 | Rake $0.30
    Board [4h Kc Kd 7c 9h]
    Seat 1: ecasino188 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Dragan Ds (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: miamia78 (big blind) showed [4d Ks] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Fours
    Seat 4: Black Swoon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: toldufold folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Gaba17111987 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: xtrmn8r111 showed [Kh 7h] and won ($6.98) with a full house, Kings full of Sevens
    Seat 8: Bru77e folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: boxxyusee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Double Bracelet Winner




  • #2
    I think the mistake you made on this hand is to slow play, Of course, that's a pretty good board for your K-4.

    Pre-Flop
    That's perfect, you don't have a good hand, you don't raise!

    Flop
    Now, you have to raise, not to much, not to low, just to have an idea what your opponent have. Obviously, here that wasn't easy to put him on K-X. But by raising, you probably give yourself a chance that he fold. (Ok, here he probably won't fold, but for the other hand, that could help you. Tight Aggressive that's the main point here)

    Turn-River
    Here, what you have to think, is what could he have to put me All-In, and that's the question i'm asking you. What is his hand range at this moment?

    I don't say that you should fold, that was a pretty unlucky hand!!

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    • #3
      hi

      I think he had 99 or any smaller pair,like i say,didnt expect he play K7 or K9,but wrong decision,he dont raise pff,so i can expect any two cards
      Double Bracelet Winner



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      • #4
        *Moved to more appropriate forum* - Fadyen

        Tournament of Champions Winner 2013

        Bracelet Winner

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        • #5
          I'm leading the flop and the turn with 1/2 pot bets. This hand is a great example of why I do not want to slowplay made hands..... by checking the flop, I'd let the opp get there, so it's my own fault that I lose.

          John (JWK24)
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          6 Time Bracelet Winner


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          • #6
            Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
            I'm leading the flop and the turn with 1/2 pot bets. This hand is a great example of why I do not want to slowplay made hands..... by checking the flop, I'd let the opp get there, so it's my own fault that I lose.

            John (JWK24)

            l hear ya john about the slowplay but......hiccup,

            This hand is a great example why it just did not matter....he was never going to fold before the turn,

            No matter what was done on the flop.

            Cheers
            Poker Rule #1....Never listen to me...hiccup

            7 Time Bracelet Winner


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            • #7
              That may be true eff, but.. if I don't make the bet, then it's on me. If I price the guy out and he gets lucky (which will happen a % of the time).. then so be it. I WILL make chips off them in the long run by making an appropriate bet, which is all that I can do and the best decision that I can make.

              John (JWK24)
              Super-Moderator



              6 Time Bracelet Winner


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              • #8
                was talking in this case.....not in the long run, that being said, this is why l am firm in my belief that only following the so-called rule of poker is wrong...hiccup

                Please refer to effsea's rule #1

                cheers
                Poker Rule #1....Never listen to me...hiccup

                7 Time Bracelet Winner


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                • #9
                  yer but, if you look at the hands that they could have in this spot, a bet on the flop will have a vast majority of their hands fold, and it would appear that a huge % of the time we have this pot on full lockdown, so why bet the flop when nearlly every time they will fold, there isnt much that they have that they will continue with, so id check here hoping they turn a draw, or are in the mood to bluff, lately ive been doing a lot of checking, i find this gives permission to the villain to bluff away....

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                  • #10
                    without raising pre, I really shouldn't have a king here, as any decent king should normally raise over a limper.. especially OOP. So most opps are going to put me on a 4 or a small pair when I lead and I can get value from two big cards or small/mid pairs that will float the flop.. especially since I shouldn't have a king since I didn't raise pre.

                    John (JWK24)
                    Super-Moderator



                    6 Time Bracelet Winner


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
                      without raising pre, I really shouldn't have a king here, as any decent king should normally raise over a limper.. especially OOP. So most opps are going to put me on a 4 or a small pair when I lead and I can get value from two big cards or small/mid pairs that will float the flop.. especially since I shouldn't have a king since I didn't raise pre. John (JWK24)
                      agree.....hiccup umbup:
                      Poker Rule #1....Never listen to me...hiccup

                      7 Time Bracelet Winner


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                      • #12
                        u r right.... i m sorry thought it was a limped pot,

                        and ruled out a lot of hands because of the limp

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                        • #13
                          disregard previous post lol it was a limped pot, been awake for 24hrs.... need sleep lol

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