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10NL ZOOM FR, QQ, too thin ?

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  • 10NL ZOOM FR, QQ, too thin ?

    Hey guys, Villian is total unknown, so no information about him. Do you think it's too thin on river to get value from TT,JJ,99 ? Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. SB: $10.15 (101.5 bb) Hero (BB): $12.12 (121.2 bb) UTG+1: $32.54 (325.4 bb) UTG+2: $13.87 (138.7 bb) MP1: $11.17 (111.7 bb) MP2: $10.80 (108 bb) MP3: $10 (100 bb) CO: $19.23 (192.3 bb) BTN: $15.30 (153 bb) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q 5 folds, CO raises to $0.20, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.90, CO calls $0.70, SB folds Flop: ($2) 8 5 4 (2 players) Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10 Turn: ($4.20) 3 (2 players) Hero bets $2.10, CO calls $2.10 River: ($8.40) 3 (2 players) Hero bets $8.02 and is all-in, CO calls $8.02 Results:

    $24.44 pot ($1.10 rake) Final Board: 8 5 4 3 3 Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$12.12 net) CO showed K K and won $23.34 ($11.22 net) [/spoiler]

  • #2
    Hi Justinovskis

    Wihout information on the villain, I would normally only go for two streets of value with an overpair on this board. Flushes, straights and full houses are possible here.

    In addition, note your betsizing. Half pot on the flop is fine, but the board does offer flush and straight possibilities. Betting 70% of the pot would be fine as well. Flushes get there on the turn. We could check, feigning weakness here hoping to induce a bet from some players; however, I prefer to bet again both for value and protection in case the villain has the A or K of clubs.

    The board pairs on the river. I think checking is your best choice. The few hands in the villain's range that you are beating are not likely to call a river bet here. I would check and perhaps call a half pot or less bet from the villain on the river. As played, your potsized river bet is too big. It will fold out most of the hands you are beating and create a situation where you get value owned. If you are going to bet for thin value (I don't think this is the best spot), then bet around half the pot as this size is neutral.


    • #3
      I check entire range on the flop.


      • #4
        Could you explain why ?



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