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10NL RUSH, QQ sandwiched vs. squeeze

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  • 10NL RUSH, QQ sandwiched vs. squeeze

    BTN(23):23/14/0.5 BB (32):28/19/4.0 3-bet: 13.3 I don't have enough info for a "true" squeeze stat. I was going to 4-bet get this in pre. BBs squeeze really felt like AK due to the PSB sizing and squeezing vs. UTG open and BTN CC. Having said that I decided to flat and play PostF. OTF: Once the original squeezer checks OTF, I felt that betting would be the best option. OTT: This is where I don't know what to do because of my SPR! When I don't know what to do, I shove! I'm looking to get value from straight draws and TP type hands... KJ, AJ. Please post your thoughts on how the hand was played... Thanks! Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/ saw flop | saw showdown Button ($18) SB ($15.90) BB ($20.63) Hero (UTG) ($13.57) MP ($14.92) CO ($10) Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.35, Hero calls $1.05, Button calls $1.05 Flop: ($4.10) J, 10, 8 (3 players) BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, Button calls $2.25, 1 fold Turn: ($8.60) 3 (2 players) Hero bets $9.97 (All-In), Button calls $9.97 River: ($28.54) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $28.54 | Rake: $1.42 Main pot: $28.54 between Button and Hero, won by Hero Results below:

    Button had J, J (three of a kind, Jacks). Hero had Q, Q (straight, Queen high). Outcome: Hero won $27.12[/spoiler]
    Last edited by dirt eh; Thu Apr 10, 2014, 08:28 PM.

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    as played i think it's ok.

    Probably the mistake was the flop bet sizing. With the board texture and considering stack sizes, betting bigger and then being able to jam the turn comfortably on bricks seems a good plan.
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    • #3
      If you think about the logical ranges for the villains in this hand, that flop texture certainly favorable for your hand/range vs the BB, but not so much vs the button. It is a really tricky spot to be in and I'm not really sure what the best play is on the flop, but your bet seems very reasonable to me after the BB checks. When the button calls though that is a very bad sign. With no flush draws it is less likely that he is floating with AKs, so his range probably consists of hands that hit the flop like JJ, TT, AJs, KQs, and JTs. QQ is in his range as well, but you block that so much that personally I wouldn't consider that as part of his range. Considering all of this, shoving the turn just doesn't seem very profitable to me. Both check-calling and check-folding turn kind of sucks as well, but I don't see how shoving turn would be more +EV. If he bets small you could potentially consider calling and re-evaluating on the river. Against a large turn bet I probably would just fold. A big reason why I come to this conclusion is that at 5NL it is usually better to focus on value heavy hand ranges and looking for good spots to get the money in. Shoving turn is not really a mistake (with the added equity of that gutshot), but it certainly isn't a great spot.

      Couldn't link the odds calc:
      Last edited by RockerguyAA; Fri Apr 11, 2014, 06:46 AM.

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      • #4
        I would always prefer 4-betting preflop vs an active squeezer, especially if another player is involved OTB. Calling hands out free equity to 2 hands mostly and with queens there are a lot of tricky flops to be played out in a sandwich position.

        As played I think it's fine as you can get value from a lot of worse hands but will ofc run into the occasional slowplay with a hand that outflopped you.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by PSO-xflixx View Post
          I would always prefer 4-betting preflop vs an active squeezer, especially if another player is involved OTB. Calling hands out free equity to 2 hands mostly and with queens there are a lot of tricky flops to be played out in a sandwich position.

          As played I think it's fine as you can get value from a lot of worse hands but will ofc run into the occasional slowplay with a hand that outflopped you.
          LOL, after reading this it occurs to me that 4-betting pre-flop is far better here considering the BB's stats and the $.3 dead money from button. Sometimes when there are no good options left, it may just be bad luck or it may be that a mistake was made on an earlier street.

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