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am i too nitty here OTR? 2nl straight OTR

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  • #2
    I think you made a fine fold here !

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    • #3
      easy fold pre-flop, never limp because too many ppl that see the flop.
      I would call.

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      • #4
        I might bet the turn trying to represent T. As played river fold is good.

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        • #5
          I think I would have called river and not raised, If I did raise I would have called I tend to pay off too much though.

          I also have a question for the hand analyzers. Do you mind that we comment here, or would you rather we keep our thoughts to ourselves and let you analyze the hands?

          I have only ever done it to kind of help myself improve with reading hands and to see how I do vs your analysis, but if you would rather I didn't post anything here I will surely respect that.
          Last edited by FireMedic815; Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:22 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rogger1999 View Post
            easy fold pre-flop, never limp because too many ppl that see the flop.
            I would call.
            I tend to disagree with you on this one, I think this is a good spot to see a flop in pos. with a connected hand on the cheap.
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            • #7
              Raise or fold pre.

              Rest is okay to the river. On the river, I wouldn't raise for thin value, it's a four to a straight board, more than possible that we are splitting, losing To J9 or a full house, so dont see the need to reopen the action.

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              • #8
                Preflop play is debatable, not a huge mistake either way imo.

                The river play is the key here... the fold is not too nitty, in fact it's not even remotely nitty, it's an easy fold imo. I don't expect to see any worse hand bet/3b jam the river here. But more importantly, the raise I believe is a significant mistake. When the villain makes a large sizing into us like this, our hand is more of a crying call. The board is paired with a 4 liner to a straight, and he likes his hand enough to pot it? Our non-nut straight could well be at the bottom of his value range. If he has just trip tens, and was going to check-raise the turn, this is a river card that may slow him down. But his sizing seems to indicate he doesn't mind this otherwise scary board. And since it's a limped pot pre, he can have tons of 9x combos, all the J9 combos, and all the FH combos save for maybe T6/T7o. There's some small % of the time he's bluffing busted diamonds, which helps our equity on the crying call, but he won't pay off a raise with those so the don't help us there.

                Keep in mind, we also have all the nutt'd combos in a limped pot, so his lack of fear in potting the river into us on this board should be immediately disconcerting imo.
                Last edited by TheLangolier; Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:24 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FireMedic815 View Post
                  I also have a question for the hand analyzers. Do you mind that we comment here, or would you rather we keep our thoughts to ourselves and let you analyze the hands?

                  I have only ever done it to kind of help myself improve with reading hands and to see how I do vs your analysis, but if you would rather I didn't post anything here I will surely respect that.
                  No, we are 100% for full discussion! The more, the merrier.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FireMedic815 View Post
                    I think I would have called river and not raised, If I did raise I would have called I tend to pay off too much though.

                    I also have a question for the hand analyzers. Do you mind that we comment here, or would you rather we keep our thoughts to ourselves and let you analyze the hands?

                    I have only ever done it to kind of help myself improve with reading hands and to see how I do vs your analysis, but if you would rather I didn't post anything here I will surely respect that.

                    I'm pretty sure it's the point of this forum that as much people as possible discuss/comment on a hand, not only the "official" analysers. I even think they sometimes wait to analyse an interesting hand just to see what everybody thinks about it.

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                    • #11
                      You're 100% correct rkleefstra.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
                        No, we are 100% for full discussion! The more, the merrier.
                        Awesome, I will try to participate more often.
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                        • #13
                          Three cheers for GL!!! \o/ (<- that's supposed to be a cheer umbup Not sure why it took me *so* long to stop making calls when it was obvious my hand was no good, just so I could see what the villain had to confirm that my instincts were right Glad to see you're not making the same mistakes that I did GL umbup: If the best you could do was tie the villain, then with a call you'd be putting in $1.93 just to win $0.56 (minus rake) at best. At worst, you'd have wound up with a $1 stack, instead of still having the full $3 like you did. Smart, not nitty!! umbup: GL, GL!! \o/
                          Last edited by TrustySam; Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:52 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TrustySam View Post
                            Three cheers for GL!!! \o/ (<- that's supposed to be a cheer umbup Not sure why it took me *so* long to stop making calls when it was obvious my hand was no good, just so I could see what the villain had to confirm that my instincts were right Glad to see you're not making the same mistakes that I did GL umbup: If the best you could do was tie the villain, then with a call you'd be putting in $1.93 just to win $0.56 (minus rake) at best. At worst, you'd have wound up with a $1 stack, instead of still having the full $3 like you did. Smart, not nitty!! umbup: GL, GL!! \o/
                            i dont have straight OTR i have gay umbup:

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                            • #15
                              lol!!

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