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    PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 MP+1: $5.00 (VPIP: 6.45, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 32) CO: $5.05 (VPIP: 13.21, PFR: 11.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53) BTN: $12.56 (VPIP: 5.33, PFR: 5.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77) SB: $4.57 (VPIP: 6.25, PFR: 3.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32) BB: $7.18 (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 59) Hero (UTG): $5.27 UTG+1: $5.00 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 7.27, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 57) MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 20.13, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 162) SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05 Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T:spade: T:diamond: Hero raises to $0.15, UTG+1 calls $0.15, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) Q:diamond: 7:heart: 8:club: Hero bets $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25 Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) 6:diamond: Hero bets $0.60, UTG+1 calls $0.60 River: ($2.07, 2 players) 9:club: Hero bets $1.40, UTG+1 calls $1.40 [spoil]Hero shows T:spade: T:diamond: (Straight, Ten High) (Pre 81%, Flop 12%, Turn 14%) UTG+1 mucks 7:club: 7:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 88%, Turn 86%) Hero wins $4.67 [/spoil] Would you bet turn here, i think maybe its bad becouse looks like villain has a Q which im behind, i block the draw hands like 910 and 10j, wich i don think they would cold call here anyway, but i do have a gutshot 2 nd pair with outs to set so i think its cool to bet turn ? edit: when i post hand in pokerstrategy forum using pokertracker as above they come out, with the cards showing like cards, on here they turn out like in writing ex. T:diamond, can i change this?
    Last edited by UrGetinTaxed; Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:33 PM.

  • #2
    I don't like cbetting the flop.

    Given we did cbet the flop I dislike betting the turn too.

    Given we did both of these things we obviously have to bet the river on this runout.

    I'd prefer x/calling twice or if the flop checks back, bet the turn for value and decide what to do depending on the river card.


    • #3
      somtimes i take this line hear birdayy or iv started too, but i think being UTG the ranges are a bit stronger and i rather just get a fold on flop as iv easily got QA+ here?


      • #4
        Hi taxed,

        The problem here is that all those flop folds you get are from worse hands, except for JJ specifically, and he may not fold that to a single bet anyway. When villains are folding all their worse/low equity hands and putting more money in the pot with their better/higher equity hands, that's not going to bode well for us.

        I think vs. this villain in these positions I'd prefer to have TT in my flop check/call range, if it checks through we can consider betting the turn and getting called by worse pairs that suspect we have AK, or check/calling turn again and betting river if it checks through. Our hand strength (pre-straight) is likely only good for 1 street of value here and the flop seems like the least likely one to get from worse if we bet.

        As played, I don't like the turn bet at all, for the reasons above. What worse hands are calling this flop bet? Probably few/none.
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        • #5
          thanks, check calling here is something i been working on alot recently rather than just mindlessly c-betting, i thought i played it bad so i posted to make sure



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