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0.02NL Holdem: 87, drew straight on turn, bad luck or was I missing something?

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  • 0.02NL Holdem: 87, drew straight on turn, bad luck or was I missing something?

    (FYI: this is my first post here so if I'm missing something or posting in the wrong place my apologies!) I've had a couple of hands similar to this one, and I'm wondering if they're just bad beats or whether it's me getting tunnel vision and not being able to see the potential for villains to have better hands. In hindsight I think I was a bit cocky raising with my hand. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 5 players Hero (BB): 164.5 BB UTG: 265 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9) CO: 121.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3) BTN: 109.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58) SB: 238.5 BB (VPIP: 41.44, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 113) SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:club: 7:spade: fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) 5:spade: 4:heart: 9:heart: SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, SB calls 1 BB Turn: (9 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB River: (21 BB, 3 players) 4:spade: SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, CO raises to 30 BB, fold, Hero calls 20 BB

    CO shows A:spade: Q:spade: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 64%, Flop 64%, Turn 18%) Hero mucks 8:club: 7:spade: (Straight, Nine High) (Pre 36%, Flop 36%, Turn 82%) CO wins 78 BB[/spoiler]

  • #2
    Hi chappynz,

    Welcome to the forums and thanks for posting this hand!

    I'd just fold to the tiny flop bet here. You haven't voluntarily invested any money in the hand yet and you shouldn't get carried away. The problem with calling is that you're only drawing to the four 6s in the deck and 6h may be a dirty out as it might give villain a flush.

    I don't agree with your decision to raise, especially not the min-raise. This doesn't achieve anything as it isn't going to get any folds and you've not got a hand that is going to win at showdown that you want to build a pot with. If you are going to raise, it is as a bluff and it should be MUCH bigger to try and get a fold. However I think raising is the worst option, with calling being the second best option and folding the best one.

    You hit the dream turn card. The pot is 10BB once the SB does his weak minbet again. I would just raise close to pot here, something like 8 or 9BB to try and extract most value from worse made hands (one pair, two pair or sets) and flush draws. Your raise size gives villains the correct price to call with their draws.

    The river is a bad card, completing the backdoor flush draw and full houses/quads. Once the SB checks, I like your bet to extract value from worse two pair hands and maybe hands like 74 that decided to limp along preflop.

    The raise from the villain illustrates an important concept that any aspiring player needs to learn - the bet/fold. This means you bet for value and fold to a raise. When villain check/raises your bet on such a scary board, he's never doing this with a bluff or with a hand worse than a straight, he either has a full house or a flush. Despite your seemingly strong hand, it is almost never going to be the best hand - your relative hand strength to that of your opponent's range is weak.


    • #3
      Fantastic feedback! Thanks spand42!


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