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  • Tutorial- how to get value from Q-high

    watch and learn moke: it's not shown here but villain had JQo, mb he put me on QT, or he did read my soul :O
    Last edited by NaturoSasuki; Thu Dec 26, 2013, 06:29 PM.

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    To be fair he probably has an intense history for you which includes J7 sooted, Q4, J7 sooted, chasing gutshots....oh and did I mention J7 sooted?

    Can't blame the fella, he is massively ahead of your range.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Danutz75 View Post
      To be fair he probably has an intense history for you which includes J7 sooted, Q4, J7 sooted, chasing gutshots....oh and did I mention J7 sooted?

      Can't blame the fella, he is massively ahead of your range.
      dun h8 my J7 sooted, teh nuts

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      • #4
        brace urself, my wide range is coming

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        • #5
          Q-high? Looks like TP2K to me. Q kicker is different from Q-high.

          Why check the flop? If they call your turn bet, which telegraphs your hand, why not bet the flop. When the Ace hits they might believe it's a scare card and donk the turn to rep an Ace?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TrumpinJoe View Post
            Q-high? Looks like TP2K to me. Q kicker is different from Q-high. Why check the flop? If they call your turn bet, which telegraphs your hand, why not bet the flop. When the Ace hits they might believe it's a scare card and donk the turn to rep an Ace?
            i meant how to get value from villain's Qhigh not mine.. he haz JQ(not shown) and i haz AQ umbup:

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            • #7
              Hi , Definitely c-bet the flop after 3-betting pre, we want to put pressure on small/medium pairs that tried to set mine us to fold and K-rag-rag is a great flop texture for this. Turn and river look standard and fine... although vs. a good hand reader our hand is face up with the small river sizing. Vs an unknown who probably isn't reading hands I think it's good to induce calls from hands like Kx. Vs good hand readers the line we took will look more like QQ/JJ if we bet bigger, like we are trying to rep the scare card ace, so that is more likely to get called by Ax/Kx imo. Villain is obvously a fish paying you off with Q high (maybe he misclicked lol), so now we have a read, value bet larger in the future with your entire value range, and value bet thinner as well. It's not much of a tutorial on getting value from Q high, you bet top pair against a stationy fish... good job, do that more. umbup:
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
                Hi ,

                Definitely c-bet the flop after 3-betting pre, we want to put pressure on small/medium pairs that tried to set mine us to fold and K-rag-rag is a great flop texture for this.
                yez , but just sayin, that if i did bet flop he will fold JQ most likely

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NaturoSasuki View Post
                  yez , but just sayin, that if i did bet flop he will fold JQ most likely
                  If that's the tutorial part, I disagree. Most players would fold QJ at any point in the hand, and wouldn't cold call a 3B pre from out of position with QJo in the first place, it's a massively fishy play.

                  Given how this guy played, while we can't be certain, I think he was more likely to call the flop than fold it.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
                    If that's the tutorial part, I disagree. Most players would fold QJ at any point in the hand, and wouldn't cold call a 3B pre from out of position with QJo in the first place, it's a massively fishy play.

                    Given how this guy played, while we can't be certain, I think he was more likely to call the flop than fold it.
                    what makes u think dat? only read dat he will call for backdoor-straight-draw, def not see reason for even biggest recreational player to call here.. as when they not conect to flop and not have overcard --> they easily folds most of the time (but they call with backdoor-flush-draw all the time, but not backdoor-straight-draw on so much disconnected board.. mb other one ), but dont folds if hit bottomz pair
                    Last edited by NaturoSasuki; Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:14 PM.

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