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    Villain is unknown Im not sure what i should do on the turn,as played i though the turn was a call to fill up because he bet flop and called a raise so that looks like a draw/ slowplay/ hands like KK. Anyhow he raises the turn which could be KK QJ KT slowplayed AA 33. Should i just put him in here i do we like my flat. River comes a K he bets i raise he puts me in, im like here we go again my boats just been cracked. Obviously i cant fold with the price im getting. So is my river line ok, i mean i cant just flat his river bet when he probably ent gonna fold his straight to my raise?

  • #2
    Very strange line, i think your getting too creative for your own good.

    My opinion of the hand:
    - your deep pf, make your 3b slightly bigger than usual, and you could actually call some 4b.
    - cb, cb, cb...and call any shoves.

    you want to cb on flop at you can be happy that the villain might call 3b pf with a good Ace and also there is a flush draw on the flop to protect your set and to BUILD the pot.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by behappy621 View Post
      Very strange line, i think your getting too creative for your own good.

      My opinion of the hand:
      - your deep pf, make your 3b slightly bigger than usual, and you could actually call some 4b.
      - cb, cb, cb...and call any shoves.

      you want to cb on flop at you can be happy that the villain might call 3b pf with a good Ace and also there is a flush draw on the flop to protect your set and to BUILD the pot.
      Do you mean im getting creative by flatting his raise on the turn?

      I would happily go all in there if its the correct play but like i said he flats my raise on the flop and then he raises me on the turn, i know i have a straight there pretty much all the time if i raised.

      I dont know if his turn raise with top two is good after i raised the flop but the only hands he dont own himself vs me with that turn raise is a flush draw when he has AK. So i was pretty sure i was only good if i filled up on the river.

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      • #4
        Three bet pre then c/r the flop.

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        • #5
          I think it’s perfect. Just like people play flush draw. You could bet river too and the easiest value is to re-raise turn.
          Last edited by braveslice; Tue Dec 24, 2013, 01:37 AM.

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          • #6
            Readless, I generally just call pre, like you did. I think your line is fine till the turn, but I think I'd shove when he raises turn. If he's got AA/KK, I'm going broke right there, and I suppose QhJh shows up sometimes (but you have 10 outs against that). AK makes up a lot of his range, though, so I want to get his stack in when he has 4 outs. As played, I think just check-calling the river is best, as you're not gonna get called by worse when you check-raise. He calls with a boat and probably folds straights, so just call and show it down. If villain is ranging you, he knows you likely flopped a set, so he's only stacking off with a better boat than yours.
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            • #7
              Hey Mike,

              preflop I prefer to 3bet from the SB unless BB was a player I wanted to join the hand badly. You guys are deep enough so you don't need to fear a 4-bet too much.

              Like the rest of the hand, would raise potsize OTF (flushdraws, Ax, gutters will most likely not fold), call his turnraise (you are a little too deep to stack off now given that he can have QJ/KK/AA) and just shove myself over villain's riverbet as I think there's enough value from all QJ combos opposed to less AA/KK/AK combos.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by PSO-xflixx View Post
                Hey Mike,

                preflop I prefer to 3bet from the SB unless BB was a player I wanted to join the hand badly. You guys are deep enough so you don't need to fear a 4-bet too much.

                Like the rest of the hand, would raise potsize OTF (flushdraws, Ax, gutters will most likely not fold), call his turnraise (you are a little too deep to stack off now given that he can have QJ/KK/AA) and just shove myself over villain's riverbet as I think there's enough value from all QJ combos opposed to less AA/KK/AK combos.
                Cool im glad you like my line post flop, seen as you said you like the turn flat as im to deep would you just 3 bet all in on the turn then 100BB deep?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PSO-xflixx View Post
                  Hey Mike,

                  preflop I prefer to 3bet from the SB unless BB was a player I wanted to join the hand badly. You guys are deep enough so you don't need to fear a 4-bet too much.

                  Like the rest of the hand, would raise potsize OTF (flushdraws, Ax, gutters will most likely not fold), call his turnraise (you are a little too deep to stack off now given that he can have QJ/KK/AA) and just shove myself over villain's riverbet as I think there's enough value from all QJ combos opposed to less AA/KK/AK combos.
                  preflop:
                  i d 3bet preflop OOP too, but wut if vilain 4bet? would u 5bet/allin or fold? or still call? cuz lets say he 4bets to around 1$ and now u dont have very good odds to stack him off postflop.. so from this point of view , given the stacksizes, callin 3bet is probably good ,

                  postflop:
                  would never ever slowplay that.. i would bet , 3bet, 5bet , allin flop .. , its dream flop where he can haz feel strong with TPTK but actualy drawin dead

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