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5NL 6max Zoom- QQ squeeze - gets raised AI by caller

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  • 5NL 6max Zoom- QQ squeeze - gets raised AI by caller

    CO: 46 hands, 19/16/7, AF:1, note: IP called 3b AQ
    BU: 3 hands, 0/0/0

    Standard call against unknown?


    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

    Button ($5.72)
    Hero (SB) ($5.32)
    BB ($9.79)
    UTG ($8.34)
    MP ($14.70)
    CO ($4.38)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Button calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Button raises to $5.72 (All-In), Hero calls $4.72 (All-In)

  • #2
    I'm pretty sure I have folded and called in this situation but not totally sure what is right.

    On the one hand we have QQ, on the other the button has pulled a move that feels quite polarising, he could have AK and be seeking to exercise fold equity and not be in horrible shame a fair % of the time when called. He could have pulled this move with AA/KK too. Or he could be one of the guys that does this with low and middling pairs think we are making the move on him.

    I think at 6 max it is a call but I can see myself folding this if the sample size was bigger on the button and he was a nit. I'm not overly enthused about getting it in pre with QQ a lot.

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    • #3
      I hate AI QQ too

      Your comment made me to go to the stats, and guess what, I have lost massive -38 dollars (1898 bb/100) with QQ, even the AI adjusted is -25 dollars.

      Out of 5 hands I was AI preflop with QQ, I have lost them all, only once against AK, others AA and KK.,

      3 out of 5 were against a limper! <- I think we have an answer.

      It continues. Out of 6 times I have been AI with KK preflop, I was against AA 3 times
      Last edited by braveslice; Wed Nov 06, 2013, 09:31 PM.

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      • #4
        Hi braveslice,

        I think I'm going with it here. My thinking is that if villain had a premium hand they would more likely 3bet the CO themselves. Also their raising is AI, I feel it would be some medium pair here more often than slow played AA/KK. Obviously they don't have information on you when their stats read 0 hands and about how much you squeeze to take some slow play line tailored to your aggressive squeeze. So I think its a call.

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        • #5
          As for me, this line looks as KK some times and AA usually. They don't want play them MW . and if there's aggressive opp OTB it's +ev slow play there. I play zoom not so often and saw it couple of times. It seems it's popular line there.
          Last edited by Shichi-77; Thu Nov 07, 2013, 10:31 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shichi-77 View Post
            As for me, this line looks as KK some times and AA usually. They don't want play them MW . and if there's aggressive opp OTB it's +ev slow play there. I play zoom not so often and saw it couple of times. It seems it's popular line there.
            If they don't look to play MW then they would 3bet themselves to get folds from the blinds. We cannot assume they know the BTN when their stats show zero hands. I think limp/raising with AA/KK would be more popular than calling a raise and re-shoving.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by geoVARTA View Post
              If they don't look to play MW then they would 3bet themselves to get folds from the blinds. We cannot assume they know the BTN when their stats show zero hands. I think limp/raising with AA/KK would be more popular than calling a raise and re-shoving.
              He really can't limp there. And I see less Cbet's than in any type of poker game. for me it means that I will see less bluff's than anywhere. It's about my micro limit of course .
              Last edited by Shichi-77; Thu Nov 07, 2013, 01:12 PM.

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