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    hi there I felt a bit tilty and got involved in the following hand,, I know I have no odds to call, and I know its a very bad preflop call, but, my question is,, what kind of notes should I be making on the 2 villains who took it to showdown?,, villain 1 mucked QQ and villain 4 AA all feedback welcome tks hanny
    Last edited by hannyug; Wed Sep 18, 2013, 07:28 PM.
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  • #2
    I would make the following notes:
    Villain 4> cold calls AA after huge 3bet preflop.
    Villain 1> 3bets 20BB with QQ preflop.
    Hero> calls a 20BB 3bet preflop with 77.
    Last edited by GamblingProp; Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:17 PM.

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    • #3
      ok,tks for this gp,, I was thinking more on the lines of tagging the players according to type, like, eg,, nit, maniac, slp, etc, but, I guess I need more hands on them to do this?

      hanny
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      • #4
        Hi hannyug,

        Yes, we should fold to the 3bet. Odds of hitting a set is 9:1 which means we have to make atleast 10x the bet we have to call when we are set mining or 3.8$ which we don't have.

        Nice catch

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        • #5
          Can't say much about Villain 1, but Villain 4 should have 4bet - so I'd note that and maybe tag em as "fish/weak" whatever you want to name it

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          • #6
            ok, I thot when calculating the possible return I total up ALL possible effective stacks? which means, $1.9 from v4 and $2.4 from v1, giving a total of $4.3, which is more than 10x the 38cents I had to call?,, or am I making a mistake and I should only calculated according to MY stack and not total of ALL available stacks?

            hanny
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            • #7
              I don't think your calculations are correct since you need 17x to flop a set but even if they were, they wont stack off every time that you hit a set and a decent amount of time one of them will hit a higher set.
              Last edited by GamblingProp; Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:14 AM.

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              • #8
                Villain 1: Overbet squeezed with QQ in position, couldn't fold an overpair to double shove.
                Villain 4: Minraised AA UTG, just called big squeeze. Donk shoved with overpair.
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                • #9
                  thanks arty, this helps a lot

                  hanny
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                  • #10
                    I would do "ATW with OP" and "min open strong (1)"
                    Last edited by braveslice; Sun Sep 29, 2013, 01:36 AM.

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