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    Hi, V6 is unknown . Is fold right play there, board was dry I think and couldn't thought what hand might play that way that I beat and I think it's bad game to catch his bluff there , I just think there won't be a lot of bluffs.
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    He's repping such a narrow range when he shoves. It's literally 8s or 5s because Qs are unlikely because of the action pre and our blocker.

    Given this i'd probably call, but it's pretty close. We also have the backdoor NF draw and an A which is probably a clean 2 pair out if he has Q8 85 etc
    Last edited by birdayy; Fri Aug 09, 2013, 01:04 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by birdayy View Post
      He's repping such a narrow range when he shoves. It's literally 8s or 5s because Qs are unlikely because of the action pre and our blocker.

      Given this i'd probably call, but it's pretty close. We also have the backdoor NF draw and an A which is probably a clean 2 pair out if he has Q8 85 etc
      wouldn't it be hero call because of pot odds ?

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      • #4
        Surely it would be a hero call. I would agree that there's hardly QQ cause of the preflop action and his stack size. All-in on flop looks like a monkey play, so if he had a QQ he would have at least reraised at preflop, especially when he had like 63BB stack. This looks like lower pocket pairs like 55/88 also 'cause of his "recreated" check-raise. I don't thing he'd have called on pre if he had 85 unless he's like a call station/limper. At the end I would say that if you had no stats on this player then the fold is a good option especially having this kind of pot odds.

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        • #5
          Flatting from the cuttoff his range will include a lot of small and medium pocket pairs. Unless you have a read on him as a maniac, he will usually only ever have pocket 8s or pocket 5s here. Also a strong possibility he check-raised 67s as a semi bluff (his sizing suggests he really wants a fold), or possibly 58s but that would be a pretty loose call preflop and I think he could slowplay that hand on this board, or reraise to a standard 2.5x-3x as he would want a call here. Overall, without a read on him this is a snap fold - price is too great. Against a standard 3x reraise I think folding is also fine especially against and unknown, calling is also plausible but you want to proceed with caution and possibly fold to continued aggression on the turn and not face a difficult spot on the river with an inflated pot and medium strength hand like tptk.
          Last edited by pockettones; Fri Aug 09, 2013, 03:31 PM.

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          • #6
            Hi Schichi

            The guys kinda sum it up here pretty well.
            The board is pretty dry, so I'm not sure what villain is x/shoving with here. Shoving with a set here is bad imo since it will give a Qx hand a chance to fold.

            I think a Qx would be betting the flop so his hand looks like a 76, 88, 55, Q8s and the occasional slow played AA/KK - Against that range we have 40% equity

            We have to call 9.36 to win 23.28 so 9.36/23.28 = 40%
            Adding AQ to his range will only improve our equity by 2% BUT if we take out 76o and only keep 76s in his range then our equity drops down to 31% - This one's pretty close and I might even feel inclined to fold just because I don't have information on our villain.

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