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  • 5NL - facing 4bet with QQ

    CO 18/13/1 (144 Hands)
    Steal 32%
    Fold to 3bet 50%

    CO seems like a good candidate to 3bet for value with a wider range

    But now the BB who is playing 14/10/inf over just 30 hands comes over the top. Is this a call? shove? fold?


    NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
    Hero ($5.45)
    BB ($5)
    UTG ($7.06)
    UTG+1 ($5.07)
    CO ($2.60)
    BTN ($10.02)

    Dealt to Hero Q:club: Q:diamond:

    fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises to $1.55,

  • #2
    First things first, a cold 4-bet at these stakes is almost always a value raise with QQ+ and AK, especially when it's a solid player (not a LAG/maniac), as squeezing light just doesn't happen.
    It's also a 3X 4-bet, which means villain is committing to stack off on good flops. You clearly don't have the right odds to go set-mining, as you need to call a dollar, with a maximum profit of $5.70 (pot after your raise + villain's stack). So implied odds of about 6:1 rule set-mining out.

    So it's shove or fold. If you shove, villain is always calling. The final pot will be 15c + 50c + $5 + $4.50 = $10.15 and your shove is an additional $4.50. So the equity you require is 4.50/10.15 = 44%.
    How does QQ fare against QQ+/AK? It has 40% equity.
    Since you need more than 45% equity to get it in here, it's a fold.
    Bracelet Winner

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    • #3
      The fact that cutoff will have a very good hand a small percentage of the time and not fold to your 4-bet shove only makes the situation worse as well.

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      • #4
        Thanks Arty! I did the right decision there then

        Originally posted by RockerguyAA View Post
        The fact that cutoff will have a very good hand a small percentage of the time and not fold to your 4-bet shove only makes the situation worse as well.
        The CO was the initial raiser, so I get to see his action after BB 4bets.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by geoVARTA View Post
          Thanks Arty! I did the right decision there then


          The CO was the initial raiser, so I get to see his action after BB 4bets.
          Oh oops. I think I got confused on the positions haha.

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