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    All was going smoothly I feel until the river. I was not expecting what happened, I was thinking smaller set most likely, or maybe slow played AA possibly or something like that. Should I have played the river differently? I wasn't fearing a flush at all really, should I have done? Cheers.

  • #2
    On this board, a competent villain should hardly ever have a flush, because it would mean he called on the flop with worse than top pair. If this guy is particularly loose or does a lot of floating, then I guess he can show up with 87dd or T8dd, but I'd be more inclined to think he has A9 when he raises the river. (He shouldn't put you on a flush, for the same reason as above).
    To avoid the river raise, you can go for the check-call on the river, as this should allow villain to bluff with worse than a set, but if he's passive he might just check behind with hands like Q9, 97, A9, so you'd miss value.
    I think a smaller river bet by you would be better. You want to target weaker hands. You'll get crying calls from K9/Q9/J9 if you bet something closer to 2.50. By betting larger, you might fold out these worse hands.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by cattons3 View Post
      I wasn't fearing a flush at all really, should I have done?
      yes you should. you made a set which is nice but you really need to bet bigger at latest on turn. you guys are really really deep and this gives some great implieds. it´s tough not to call the river, but yes, the river raise should make you suspicious. your river bet should have been smaller too, just like your raise pre and your bet on flop should be bigger. i suggest to bank your winnings when you´re above 130bb as deepstackplay has a high impact on gamedynamics. effective stack was 200bb in that hand, but you played it like 100bb. villain made nothing wrong at any point in this hand and it´s important you understand that!


      • #4
        Hi cattons3

        I would have played this hand a bit diffently. With so many limpers in the hand, I would have limped behind and played this as a speculative hand. Raising (or reraising) preflop with a pair is great when facing one or sometimes two opponents. In this spot, there are three limpers already in, including two ep guys. I think the chances of you getting all of them to fold is pretty slim. This is going to create a tough postflop situation where you are out of postion and normally facing overcards.

        As played, you flopped top set. I like your c-bet. However, I would have bet 50% of the pot. We want to keep villain 1 in the hand. After he calls our flop bet, it seems as if the villain likes his hand. Since you are both deep stacked, now I would have increased my bet size. I would have made a pot sized bet on the turn going for maximum value.

        The river isn't good. I agree with Arty, I would have check-called. This will induce bets from all the hands you are beating and hopefully keep the pot under control in case you are up against a flush.

        At microstakes zoom, any time the villain is passive on the early streets, then wakes up making large bets or raises on the turn or river, I give them credit for having a strong made hand. If a flush or straight is possible, they usually have it. As in this hand, even though a flush seems rather unlikely, don't ignore the possibility.

        Learning to minimize my losses in spots like this, rather than focusing on increasing my potential winnings, has been the biggest improvement to my overall profit at Zoom.

        GL and have fun at the tables!

        Roland GTX


        • #5
          "Learning to minimize my losses in spots like this, rather than focusing on increasing my potential winnings..." well said Rolandumbup:
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