PokerStars homepage
  • If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

2NL 66 in BB first hand at table.

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • 2NL 66 in BB first hand at table.

    This was my first hand at the table i have info on masonada as I know him to be a very loose passive calling station so i searched him to try and make some more money off him The other villain in the hand is unknown. Pre-flop the hand is a straight forward call for me as i am getting decent odds to set mine as I know masonada will often pay me off when I hit. the flop comes okay for me and I figure that i am often still good on this sort of flop I check to the initial raiser he bets and masonada calls. As i figure my hand is still good i call with the plan to re-evaluate on the turn and check raise if a good card comes. I hit the turn pretty big and am confident my hand is best, i check again planning to check raise and the original raiser bets masonada calls. I decide that with 3 draws out and 3 opponents in the pot to bet nearly the size of the pot. Is this a reasonable play or should i bet smaller or even lead the turn?
    Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
    Follow me on: Twitter

  • #2
    Hi Croyd,

    Originally posted by Croyd93 View Post
    Pre-flop the hand is a straight forward call for me as i am getting decent odds to set mine as I know masonada will often pay me off when I hit.
    I agree completely.

    The flop comes okay for me and I figure that i am often still good on this sort of flop I check to the initial raiser he bets and masonada calls. As i figure my hand is still good i call with the plan to re-evaluate on the turn and check raise if a good card comes.
    This I don't really agree with. Your hand is maybe still good imo... the preflop raiser's smallish c-bet is indicative of a weak hand, probably a missed AK/AQ type hand. The loose passive station is the problem here. He's usually calling with something. We're ahead of hands like 44 and K2s. We're behind K7s, T8, etc. We're roughly 50/50 against a range of draws. Maybe he's peeling light with just overs due to the smallish bet, we're ahead of those too.

    On balance, I think we rate to be ahead still slightly more often than not. But that's not really good enough... we are going to be in a 3 handed pot out of position vs. an unknown and a station who probably has something, and I'm just not figuring out a way to play this situation profitably on the turn and river, especially considering that there are a ton of bad turn and river cards for us... basically any card 9+ or any spade will probably force us to check/fold anyway as all those cards devalue our holding somewhat and improve both their general ranges over all.

    And check-raising when a good card comes is ok, but which cards are you looking for? I think only 2 cards actually qualify, spiking your set. Most turn cards we'll either be guessing (2's-5's, 7's, 8's) or not really even able to continue (9's+). Yuck.

    I hit the turn pretty big and am confident my hand is best, i check again planning to check raise and the original raiser bets masonada calls. I decide that with 3 draws out and 3 opponents in the pot to bet nearly the size of the pot. Is this a reasonable play or should i bet smaller or even lead the turn?
    I think the big raise sizing is good on such a wet board with a station present who will pay the price with so many worse hands. But I would actually prefer to lead out for about a pot sized bet on the turn. Given the weak lead by the preflop raiser on the flop, after he gets called in 2 spots I wouldn't count on him betting again for me... and if he checks a loose-passive player is very likely to check through all his worse hands costing us a ton of value.

    So I would definitely call preflop, Begrudgingly fold the flop here usually, and lead turn when I spike my set.

    Dave
    Head Live Trainer
    Check out my Videos

    4 Time Bracelet Winner



    Comment


    • #3
      Cheers Dave
      Follow me on: Twitter

      Comment

      Working...
      X

      X Cookies Information

      We have placed cookies on your computer to improve your experience on our website. You can change your cookie settings at any time. Otherwise, we'll assume you're OK to continue.