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    Had 2 hands against a heavy bluffer in a row. But dont know if i called to loose against him.

    Hand 1.
    https://www.boomplayer.com/nl/30571515_DCF5748582

    flop thoughts : c bet of half pot on dry ish board. Hits my range harder then his. He raises , i call.
    Turn thoughts : 4 good card for me!He bets big , i figure he is either bluffing or has set of 10-10 or k-10. Dont think he will bet like that with k-x.
    River : he checks , dont feel the need to bet because he either has me beat or has nothing. He shows 9-9 , label him aggresive bluffer.

    Hand 2.
    https://www.boomplayer.com/nl/30571513_7401ADE78A

    preflop thoughts : open utg and see heavy bluffer on the BB. I figure i flat this because , im in position with suited a-j. UTG will be ahead of my range most of the time and bluffer can go aggresive again. Might call 3bet if its the bluffer and headsup.

    flop thoughts: wet board. both could have me beat. it checks around.
    turn thoughts: checks again to me , i figure i take a stab with a half size bet ( shouldve made it 12+). Heavy bluffer raises me around 4x my bet.

    me : i have a heavy feeling his bluffing. I dont put him on a q here most of the time , having j-9 also because i have a jack.
    So he either has nothing/ 8x or 10x.

    So i would beat him if a ( Jack , ace , 9 , king ) hits the river. wich is 14 outs. With the chance he has nothing added to it , i call.

    River : He bets big here , i geuss he wasnt bluffing. But dont know how to size my reraise here. I pick 2 here for whatever reason.
    All-in wouldve been better. Villian folds.

    If i were to do the math , what would be the probability be here of him bluffing?

  • #2
    1. I think in general it was well played. The only question for me is to go on a river for the thin value against KQ KJ K9 or just x-back. I think against him,i would go there for a 1/3 pot on a river (maybe he call that with 99 also).

    2. The problem with your turn bet is,if the aggro guy raise you,you can get in trouble. I'm still checking here,and take the free river card. On a river just the shove is the good play vs his bet.
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    • #3
      KandoPoker

      I agree with Taurus. Turn is a check in the second hand. We're beat by any pair, so when they raise us... calling is a spew.
      Obviously, shoving the river is the play and hope they do have a pair.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
        KandoPoker

        I agree with Taurus. Turn is a check in the second hand. We're beat by any pair, so when they raise us... calling is a spew.
        Obviously, shoving the river is the play and hope they do have a pair.

        John (JWK24)
        Would you consider calling when he sizes his raise to 30?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KandoPoker View Post

          Would you consider calling when he sizes his raise to 30?
          no. we need to call basically 20 cents into 80 cents, which is 25%... we only have 8 outs, which is only worth 16%... so calling is -9% EV

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          • #6
            4.8:1 - 3:1 = 1.8:1

            Call amount is 20 x 1.8 = 38 so the new pot is 98c. That means you need 98c from him at the river,to make a break even call on the turn. If you think you can win 98c everytime from him when you hit the straight on the river,than you make a good call,otherwise you not.
            Last edited by Taurus221; Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:19 PM.
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