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  • 2NL - AKs vs. 32

    Hey everyone,
    How do you guys think I should've played this? Was it stupid to keep calling once the second 2 hit the board? I didn't think opp would have any 2X hands other than maybe 22, and since it's always very unlikely to get quads I decided to take my chances.. also didn't think I'd be against AA or KK here most of the time because they would've raised preflop.. On the river, should I have folded or maybe just called? The bet was so close to my stack that I decided to shove, in case it was an eventual bluff, though I think it's also pretty unlikely with this board...

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  • #2
    Against NL2 randoms it's fine to vbetting all the street with your value range. It's a kinda blank turn,because you not expecting any 2 x hand from the opp. But so many weaker Ax and even Kx will call you.

    This is a weird situation. He clearly rep a 2 x in here,but the only 2 x i can put in here is an A2 (and yeah the 22). I don't think he have any bluff in here,so the weakest hand i can think in this situation is some overrated Ax. Still i'm not folding on the turn.

    On a river,i dislike the shove option. I mean ok maybe he can have some Ax,but it's not too likely in this line. And he is raising with big size,so i think the fold in here is the best option. Especially because we don't have any information about this guy.

    You can tag him now as a fish. And note the situation (called pre bu almost 100% vs early 3x open,called flop cbet 3way with 3rd pair,miniclick turn vs 2nd barell set or better). Next time you will know how to play against him.
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    • #3
      I'm leading the flop and leading the turn. Vs a 2nl random, the turn raise is a problem. I'm going to call it, but I'm not happy about it. On the river, I'm checking and folding to any sizeable bet. The opp won't raise the turn and bet big on the river without a 2. I'll call a small bet, but not a large one.

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        Thank you guys!

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        • #5
          the only mistake u made was raising 0.06 with AKs, you should have raised more, at least 0.12 or more and that would make the 23 guy fold for sure
          but hey, u were unlucky, anyone in your place would have lose chips in here with AKs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Poker-M@fi@ View Post
            the only mistake u made was raising 0.06 with AKs, you should have raised more, at least 0.12 or more and that would make the 23 guy fold for sure
            Poker-M@fi@


            NOOOOOOOO we want to make the exact same raise regardless of what our hand is (personally, I use 4bb+1bb or each limper). Players that bet more with larger hands and less with marginal ones turn their cards face up to any opp that is observant and taking notes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JWK24 View Post

              Poker-M@fi@


              NOOOOOOOO we want to make the exact same raise regardless of what our hand is (personally, I use 4bb+1bb or each limper). Players that bet more with larger hands and less with marginal ones turn their cards face up to any opp that is observant and taking notes.

              John (JWK24)
              may be you are right, but if i were the guy with 23, i may call the 0.06, but if he raise 0.12 for sure i will fold , and only players with A10+ or a pair would call me, and that gives me a big chance to take the pot, especially if an A or K show up, but that's just the way i see things.

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              • #8
                Poker-M@fi@

                That all comes down to poker math.. if they call the 6 cents continually.. they will lose every cent they own. They have to call 6 cents into 15 cents (40%). Their hand (say we're opening a 20% range), is only worth 29.2%.... so each and every time they call, their expected value is 29.2% - 40% or -10.8%. If I can make plays consistently where the opp expects to lose over 10% of their chips each and every single time on average.. I'll make a fortune in the long run.

                The way to make money playing poker is to have the opps make more plays where they expect to lose chips to me.. than plays where I expect to lose chips to them. It all comes down to math.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by beatrizdib View Post
                  Hey everyone,
                  How do you guys think I should've played this? Was it stupid to keep calling once the second 2 hit the board? I didn't think opp would have any 2X hands other than maybe 22, and since it's always very unlikely to get quads I decided to take my chances.. also didn't think I'd be against AA or KK here most of the time because they would've raised preflop.. On the river, should I have folded or maybe just called? The bet was so close to my stack that I decided to shove, in case it was an eventual bluff, though I think it's also pretty unlikely with this board...

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                  Thank you!
                  It's never really going to be a bluff, but it can be someone overvaluing an ace that no longer has a kicker problem when the 2 pairs.

                  Don't let results oriented thinking cloud judgement, the suggestion they must simply always have 2 here dumbfounds me. I don't think I'm folding against fish that have little concept of hand strength and may think A5 is tied or winning.
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