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PLO: Middle Full House vs. Quads, Is This Standard?

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  • PLO: Middle Full House vs. Quads, Is This Standard?

    I ran into this hand while playing an 8-Game cash session. I'm wondering what you guys think of the play in this hand, and I'm especially curious if this is a standard thing to see. Thanks!

    Also, if anyone knows a working 8-Game converter, I'd love to hear about it.

    PokerStars Game #62106622821: 8-Game (Omaha Pot Limit, $0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/05/14 17:30:48 PT [2011/05/14 20:30:48 ET]
    Table 'Rhesus IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: goodbyerebuy ($6.23 in chips)
    Seat 2: bigmac333 ($5 in chips)
    Seat 3: PanickyPoker ($15.25 in chips)
    Seat 4: otterkopp ($9.90 in chips)
    Seat 5: Saltpingvin ($4.86 in chips)
    Seat 6: Eggjay ($4.93 in chips)
    Eggjay: posts small blind $0.05
    goodbyerebuy: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to PanickyPoker [7h Kh 6h 7d]
    bigmac333: calls $0.10
    PanickyPoker: folds
    otterkopp: folds
    Saltpingvin: calls $0.10
    Eggjay: calls $0.05
    goodbyerebuy: checks
    *** FLOP *** [9h 8s Qd]
    Eggjay: checks
    goodbyerebuy: checks
    bigmac333: bets $0.30
    Saltpingvin: calls $0.30
    Eggjay: calls $0.30
    goodbyerebuy: folds
    *** TURN *** [9h 8s Qd] [8h]
    Eggjay: checks
    bigmac333: bets $0.40
    Saltpingvin: folds
    Eggjay: raises $0.90 to $1.30
    bigmac333: raises $1.30 to $2.60
    Eggjay: raises $1.90 to $4.50
    bigmac333: raises $0.10 to $4.60 and is all-in
    Eggjay: calls $0.03 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($0.07) returned to bigmac333
    *** RIVER *** [9h 8s Qd 8h] [9s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Eggjay: shows [Jc 3h 9c 9d] (four of a kind, Nines)
    bigmac333: shows [8c 7c Ac 8d] (four of a kind, Eights)
    Eggjay collected $9.85 from pot
    Eggjay said, "fk me"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $10.36 | Rake $0.51
    Board [9h 8s Qd 8h 9s]
    Seat 1: goodbyerebuy (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: bigmac333 showed [8c 7c Ac 8d] and lost with four of a kind, Eights
    Seat 3: PanickyPoker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: otterkopp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Saltpingvin (button) folded on the Turn
    Seat 6: Eggjay (small blind) showed [Jc 3h 9c 9d] and won ($9.85) with four of a kind, Nines

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    COULD NOT FIND THE FULL HOUSE

    sometimes i laugh so hard tears run down my leg

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    • #3
      I only see 2 pair, 9's and 7's for you.

      Full houses running into quads is really common in PLO, but there isn't a full house in anyone's hands that I see.

      If the board has two pairs on it, two quads is something that can happen too..... like what happened here.
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      • #4
        Eggjay had a full house when the money went in. My hand has nothing to do with this (unless I made a bad fold).

        I'd like to know if:

        1) players will generally get it in with a full house when overfulls and quads are both possible,

        2) full house vs. quads / quads vs. quads is something that you see frequently in PLO, and

        3) whether or not quads getting sucked out on is something that happens regularly in the game.

        Apparently #2 is a yes, from what I gather. The frequency of these things happening is sort of what I'm interested in learning, just to help me guage when I should be getting involved, and when I should be folding, hands like second boat on a board like this one.

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        • #5
          with over boats and quads possible, normally someone waits to get it in (or is taking a real, real big risk.

          full house vs quads...... common in omaha

          quads sucked out on... is not normal.

          If you get a boat, you want to make a bet, but pushing without the nuts is a recipe for disaster.... and with 4 cards for everyone, you'll see the nuts more than you think.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by PanickyPoker View Post
            Eggjay had a full house when the money went in. My hand has nothing to do with this (unless I made a bad fold).
            Your fold is good.
            I'd like to know if:

            1) players will generally get it in with a full house when overfulls and quads are both possible,
            Fishy ones absolutely. Solid ones not so much (it depends).

            2) full house vs. quads / quads vs. quads is something that you see frequently in PLO
            No, not really, I wouldn't say frequently by any stretch of the word, BUT it is much more "common" than in holdem where it's super rare.

            3) whether or not quads getting sucked out on is something that happens regularly in the game.
            No, absolutely not.
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            • #7
              Thanks for the help, JWK and Dave.

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