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so i am terriost now after playing this hand..wow

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  • so i am terriost now after playing this hand..wow

    PokerStars Game #60299856550: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2011/04/03 23:45:52 ET
    Table 'Myrrha IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Asinus77 ($36 in chips)
    Seat 2: GerCop ($11 in chips)
    Seat 3: xxaddict ($130.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: nvrcrackdrok ($211 in chips)
    Seat 5: niwin ($97 in chips)
    Seat 6: TARIQ06 ($127.50 in chips)
    niwin: posts small blind $1
    TARIQ06: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TARIQ06 [5d 5h]
    Asinus77: folds
    GerCop: folds
    xxaddict: folds
    nvrcrackdrok: raises $2 to $4
    niwin: raises $2 to $6
    TARIQ06: calls $4
    nvrcrackdrok: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [Js 2c Ad]
    niwin: bets $2
    TARIQ06: calls $2
    nvrcrackdrok: folds
    *** TURN *** [Js 2c Ad] [5s]
    niwin: bets $4
    TARIQ06: raises $4 to $8
    niwin: calls $4
    *** RIVER *** [Js 2c Ad 5s] [2h]
    niwin: checks
    TARIQ06: bets $4
    niwin: calls $4
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    TARIQ06: shows [5d 5h] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces)
    niwin: mucks hand
    TARIQ06 collected $44 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***


    dude was mad and started calling me one of bin laden boys and go back to the middle east..wow..if i had a buck for all the terriost comments, i would be rich.. really did i donk this guy the way i played this..tx for the input...

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    Use the Hand Replayer,,,it's so much easier

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    • #3
      i have seen it use several times on HA, how do i access it for my saved hands..tx

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      • #4
        the only thing even remotely questionable would be the call on the flop.... but it was a min bet.

        You needed to put 2 into a pot of 20 (10%) and had 2 outs with 2 draws (8%).... not perfect, but at least it's close.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
          the only thing even remotely questionable would be the call on the flop.... but it was a min bet.

          You needed to put 2 into a pot of 20 (10%) and had 2 outs with 2 draws (8%).... not perfect, but at least it's close.
          Disagree.

          Preflop call is bad, you're not getting the right price to set mine the flop. It's 2 bets to you and you don't close the action in a 3b pot, so it could easily be capped costing you 3 bets to see the flop. Even if it doesn't, you generally need implied odds of 15-1 (as a rough guide) out of position to set mine. The pot contains 7 small bets when it's on you (assuming the preflop raiser just calls the 3b and doesn't cap it). Let's say you flop a set, c/r the turn, and both pay you off all they way (a best case scenario). Implied odds in this scenario are 2 small bets on the flop, 4 big bets on the turn (8 small bets) and 2 big bets on the river for a total of 14 small bets post flop. Plus the 7 pre = 21 small bets, way short of what you need in implied odds to correctly set mine and this is one of your best case scenarios too.

          Small pairs in limit need volume (lots of players) to make set mining profitable, or they need to be heads up (to have their best chance to win without making a set). Here you have neither. This is a fold preflop.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
            Disagree.

            Preflop call is bad, you're not getting the right price to set mine the flop. It's 2 bets to you and you don't close the action in a 3b pot, so it could easily be capped costing you 3 bets to see the flop. Even if it doesn't, you generally need implied odds of 15-1 (as a rough guide) out of position to set mine. The pot contains 7 small bets when it's on you (assuming the preflop raiser just calls the 3b and doesn't cap it). Let's say you flop a set, c/r the turn, and both pay you off all they way (a best case scenario). Implied odds in this scenario are 2 small bets on the flop, 4 big bets on the turn (8 small bets) and 2 big bets on the river for a total of 14 small bets post flop. Plus the 7 pre = 21 small bets, way short of what you need in implied odds to correctly set mine and this is one of your best case scenarios too.

            Small pairs in limit need volume (lots of players) to make set mining profitable, or they need to be heads up (to have their best chance to win without making a set). Here you have neither. This is a fold preflop.

            excellent analysis Langolier

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
              Disagree.

              Preflop call is bad, you're not getting the right price to set mine the flop. It's 2 bets to you and you don't close the action in a 3b pot, so it could easily be capped costing you 3 bets to see the flop. Even if it doesn't, you generally need implied odds of 15-1 (as a rough guide) out of position to set mine. The pot contains 7 small bets when it's on you (assuming the preflop raiser just calls the 3b and doesn't cap it). Let's say you flop a set, c/r the turn, and both pay you off all they way (a best case scenario). Implied odds in this scenario are 2 small bets on the flop, 4 big bets on the turn (8 small bets) and 2 big bets on the river for a total of 14 small bets post flop. Plus the 7 pre = 21 small bets, way short of what you need in implied odds to correctly set mine and this is one of your best case scenarios too.

              Small pairs in limit need volume (lots of players) to make set mining profitable, or they need to be heads up (to have their best chance to win without making a set). Here you have neither. This is a fold preflop.
              Great point Dave, I didn't immediately think of the implied odds.... I'm glad I got into this thread, because I learned something too (trying to learn more about limit games).
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