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  • A couple hands 1 good... one not so good. Help?

    i originally posted in the blog but thought id get better feedback here.


    having my best tourney to date since i started playing at Poker Stars a couple weeks ago.(Pokerpages Rags to Riches), at this moment there are 18 left and i am currently 14th with $34K abd blinds at $2000/$1000.

    just got A2 d with 3 limpers and flop 6d8d2c

    checked and had bet of $6K with to callers after him pot is $34K

    turn comes 2s

    with trips and nut flush draw i check figuring there would be another bet from one of the others. i was right.

    1st better bets $10K with 2 callers so i only have $26K left and reraise all in.

    the intial aggressor calls and the second guy in reraises another $6500

    pot is $136579

    i raked $123K

    and now am 7 of 12 as im writing this.

    need top 4 but i wish this was in the regular PSO for rank and alittle coin. hehe.


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    ok so made it to the final table as bottom 1/2 in chips. down to final 8 and score big pot.
    started hand with $77K

    blinds at $6000/$3000

    early position raise to $30K and another raise from the cutoff to $66K

    i push all in with 2 callers
    pot is $247K

    aggressor goes all in o n the flop of 8s 2d Ad and pushes the other out

    he shows AsJc i have AcKd

    turn Qd 8c

    i rake the pot.

    a couple hands later i get caught in what i like to call the RNG set up. i say this because it gives you a hand you cant get away from on the flop only to already be beat.



    IM in BB with 76d and call the blind at $6000

    there are 4 of us in

    pot is $28000

    flop comes 10c 9c 8s

    I bet $30K to try and protect against possible flush draw.

    next player calls, the following player raises to $60K

    I call, the next player calls.

    pot is $208K

    turn comes 9d

    this kinda scares me a little as im think possible FH out there but playing the odds i dont feel this hand is made yet.


    but i check.
    next player checks and the aggressor bets $66K

    heres where i think i made my mistake:
    although i was pretty sure i had best hand i pushed all in in case iof other draws. the thought that the guy had QJ did cross my mind because i am a net veteran and have seen these types of "set up" hands a ton and lose most of them. *** i know these are the ones people usually remember***


    i go all in for $178K

    next person folds and aggressor calls $93K all in

    he shows my gut fear of QsJc and takes the air out of my sails.

    Did i play it right?
    Should i have trusted my gut and checked the flop?
    Why is it that when i try to "make money" it almost always backfires?

    i understand that with this particular hand i was dead from the start and nothing post flop couldve changed it.


    did i play it right?

    what could i have done different?

    Maybe i shouldve squatted since i was so close to the money.

    I finished 7th out of 1068

    great finish but so disappointed
    Last edited by Magunga_Mike; Tue Mar 29, 2011, 09:48 AM.

  • #2
    The first hand is pretty standard you got it in with the best and had a monster draw. The last hand I can't really give my opinion because there isn't that much information. But I can say that when a flop comes 89T, if it didn't hit you, it more than likely hit your opponent super hard especially if there is more than one in the pot with you.

    Have you checked out the hand replayer that PSO has to offer? It is on the home page, you go into it and punch a hand in and it gives you a link to post, which will give us a visual just like it was played at your table. If you have problems with it the Langolier has a video in the library on live training explaining how to use that and a few other tools PSO has to offer.

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    • #3
      Hi Mike,

      A couple tips for posting in the Hand Analysis forum:

      -Post the actual hand history (use the replayer is good). When you type out all the info manually, inevidably important info gets left off and mistakes are often made just by accident. If you wish to leave the actual result of the hand off that's fine, as the result doesn't really matter, what matters is the decision making process (sometimes seeing the result will taint people's responses although it shouldn't, in practice it does).

      -Only post 1 hand per thread. I know it can be cumbersome if you have 3 hands to open 3 threads, but it's really better that way because everyone replying is on topic then. With multiple hands in your OP, the replies can get confused about who's talking about which hand at times.

      On to your hands:

      Hand 1: With 17 bb's you shouldn't be limping in, you should generally be raising or folding. There's no info about your position or the position of limpers (see first point above) so will assume you were in the big blind and got a free play here. With a strong flop for you (pair+nut flush draw) I would generally semi-bluff aggressively, give yourself 2 ways to win (either they all fold or you improve to the best hand if called). Try to leverage the chips you do have in a positive way. Check out of position is fine but after a 3bb bet and a call there is now 10 bb's in the pot and you have 16 let in your stack, I would check/raise ship it right here.

      Hand 2: 13 bb stack and AK, getting it in pre is pretty standard, I see no reason to deviate from that in this spot without player reads.

      Hand 3: You're in a tough spot. You start the hand with 40bb's so you finally have a stack working. You get a free play in the big blind and flop the baby straight on a super wet board. I like lead betting here but not the bet sizing so much, as there are so many bad turn cards for your hand, I'd like to control the pot size a bit if possible in case this hand goes south for the winter and I need to get away from it, and making a big bet won't do that. I think 15-18K is plenty here. NOTE: This is assuming we have limpers in who cover or are close to us... if the effective stack is shorter then there'll be no folding a straight (again see the first point in this post!). How to respond to the action depends a lot on how we range the villains making said action. It's a very wet board, if they will get the money in with hands as weak as top pair or just with draws, then I think we're going broke here. If they are going to have only stronger hands like trips+, then our equity is pretty poor vs. their over all ranges and we can get ourselves out of this one without the majority of our stack intact. No player reads were given so can't really give a good answer to this one.

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        • #5
          Test complete.
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          • #6
            Use the hand replayer, it's a classy move!

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            • #7
              ok will do.

              one hand per and replayer. i tried to describe it from the replayer as i went back and watched it. Love that BTW.

              Learning the right time to shove is tough as i like "feeling it" when i do it. I know what the books say but as a relatively tight player this is one of the things im looking to improve on.

              As far as reads i guess i never thought to put those in there.

              i need to find where & how to use the replayer in here. You did mean to link it here to watch?! or am i misunderstanding.

              EDIT: ok found the sticky on it.
              Thanks.
              Last edited by Magunga_Mike; Wed Mar 30, 2011, 10:54 AM.

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              • #8
                NOt sure why the replayer dont work for me. does it take all night for it to load? it was at 0% for like 1/2 hour.

                I hope its ok if i can just post the hands via words.

                Unless anyone else can help me on this.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Magunga_Mike View Post
                  NOt sure why the replayer dont work for me. does it take all night for it to load? it was at 0% for like 1/2 hour.

                  I hope its ok if i can just post the hands via words.

                  Unless anyone else can help me on this.
                  Did you watch the training video on how to use the hand replayer? The first half of the vid is on the replayer (2nd half is on the odds calc).

                  It should load very quickly, in seconds.

                  If you must post in text, please copy/paste the hand history, don't type out a manual description of the hand unless you have no choice (like a hand you played live at a casino).
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                  • #10
                    ??

                    also- change ure avatar man- once you throw Alicia Sliverstone into the mix- poker means nada - zero- zilch-- lolo gl man-- monk...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by monkeyskunk4 View Post
                      also- change ure avatar man- once you throw Alicia Sliverstone into the mix- poker means nada - zero- zilch-- lolo gl man-- monk...

                      Its not alicia nor is it batgirl ..LOL

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                      • #12
                        ??

                        Thats Alicia--

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Magunga_Mike View Post
                          Its not alicia nor is it batgirl ..LOL

                          The original CatWoman - Julie Newmar?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheLangolier View Post
                            Did you watch the training video on how to use the hand replayer? The first half of the vid is on the replayer (2nd half is on the odds calc).

                            It should load very quickly, in seconds.

                            If you must post in text, please copy/paste the hand history, don't type out a manual description of the hand unless you have no choice (like a hand you played live at a casino).

                            i was trying to use the hand history from email before. when i used it right away from the site it took very quickly. i will have to remember to do that at the time. i tested it in my Bankroll post for a good score i had there. (i hope its ok to do that).

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