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    PokerStars Game #57721866187: Tournament #360452893, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/02/15 20:32:16 WET [2011/02/15 15:32:16 ET]
    Table '360452893 105' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: antlovesang1 (2325 in chips)
    Seat 2: pudge300 (2125 in chips)
    Seat 3: 591toni (1350 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: jamieren (195 in chips)
    Seat 5: idiot1945 (2075 in chips)
    Seat 6: JayUrban10 (2175 in chips)
    Seat 7: gingerdevil (2365 in chips)
    Seat 8: DrunkYeti (1005 in chips)
    Seat 9: horsearound6 (1385 in chips)
    JayUrban10: posts small blind 50
    gingerdevil: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to antlovesang1 [5h 5d]
    DrunkYeti: folds
    horsearound6: calls 100
    antlovesang1: calls 100
    pudge300: folds
    591toni: folds
    jamieren: folds
    idiot1945: calls 100
    JayUrban10: calls 50
    gingerdevil: checks
    *** FLOP *** [4d 6h 5s]
    JayUrban10: checks
    gingerdevil: bets 100
    horsearound6: calls 100
    antlovesang1: raises 300 to 400
    idiot1945: folds
    JayUrban10: folds
    gingerdevil: calls 300
    horsearound6: calls 300
    *** TURN *** [4d 6h 5s] [7h]
    gingerdevil: bets 1800
    horsearound6: calls 885 and is all-in
    antlovesang1: folds
    Uncalled bet (915) returned to gingerdevil
    *** RIVER *** [4d 6h 5s 7h] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    gingerdevil: shows [2h 8h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
    horsearound6: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    gingerdevil collected 3470 from pot
    horsearound6 finished the tournament in 903rd place
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3470 | Rake 0
    Board [4d 6h 5s 7h 5c]
    Seat 1: antlovesang1 folded on the Turn
    Seat 2: pudge300 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: 591toni folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: jamieren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: idiot1945 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: JayUrban10 (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: gingerdevil (big blind) showed [2h 8h] and won (3470) with a straight, Four to Eight
    Seat 8: DrunkYeti folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: horsearound6 showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives

  • #2
    ahh maybe mods move this to right forum? lol

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    • #3
      horrible play by you and aces preflop

      limping with aces deserved to lose

      you with trips gotta re raise/shove

      2/8 had double belly buster (woulda hit a straight with the 3 or 7)

      so bad play with the aces and the 5s

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      • #4
        Originally posted by antlovesang1 View Post
        PokerStars Game #57721866187: Tournament #360452893, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/02/15 20:32:16 WET [2011/02/15 15:32:16 ET]
        Table '360452893 105' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
        Seat 1: antlovesang1 (2325 in chips)
        Seat 2: pudge300 (2125 in chips)
        Seat 3: 591toni (1350 in chips) is sitting out
        Seat 4: jamieren (195 in chips)
        Seat 5: idiot1945 (2075 in chips)
        Seat 6: JayUrban10 (2175 in chips)
        Seat 7: gingerdevil (2365 in chips)
        Seat 8: DrunkYeti (1005 in chips)
        Seat 9: horsearound6 (1385 in chips)
        JayUrban10: posts small blind 50
        gingerdevil: posts big blind 100
        *** HOLE CARDS ***
        Dealt to antlovesang1 [5h 5d]
        DrunkYeti: folds
        horsearound6: calls 100
        antlovesang1: calls 100
        pudge300: folds
        591toni: folds
        jamieren: folds
        idiot1945: calls 100
        JayUrban10: calls 50
        gingerdevil: checks
        *** FLOP *** [4d 6h 5s]
        JayUrban10: checks
        gingerdevil: bets 100
        horsearound6: calls 100
        antlovesang1: raises 300 to 400
        idiot1945: folds
        JayUrban10: folds
        gingerdevil: calls 300
        horsearound6: calls 300
        *** TURN *** [4d 6h 5s] [7h]
        gingerdevil: bets 1800
        horsearound6: calls 885 and is all-in
        antlovesang1: folds
        Uncalled bet (915) returned to gingerdevil
        *** RIVER *** [4d 6h 5s 7h] [5c]
        *** SHOW DOWN ***
        gingerdevil: shows [2h 8h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
        horsearound6: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
        gingerdevil collected 3470 from pot
        horsearound6 finished the tournament in 903rd place
        *** SUMMARY ***
        Total pot 3470 | Rake 0
        Board [4d 6h 5s 7h 5c]
        Seat 1: antlovesang1 folded on the Turn
        Seat 2: pudge300 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
        Seat 3: 591toni folded before Flop (didn't bet)
        Seat 4: jamieren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
        Seat 5: idiot1945 (button) folded on the Flop
        Seat 6: JayUrban10 (small blind) folded on the Flop
        Seat 7: gingerdevil (big blind) showed [2h 8h] and won (3470) with a straight, Four to Eight
        Seat 8: DrunkYeti folded before Flop (didn't bet)
        Seat 9: horsearound6 showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
        Ok ant first off this belongs in the Hand Analysis forum not here in general,so can a Mod plese move it and can some around here learn where these posts are supposed to go please?

        As to the hand the player (horesaround6) with AA who limped the Aces deserved exactly what he got---the rail.

        As to ant's play I think calling a 3x bet raise over the 2 min bets post flop a "horrible play" is a little off base. I'm not at the table,so I don't know if gingerdevil (who had the double belly buster draw) and horsearound are the type that a shove here will move off the pot or if they're the "hold on to grim death" type so hard to say. The standard answer is that a jam play by ant here would probably get ginger to come off his or her draw and get horsearound to quite possibly over-value his Aces and come along for a probable skinning. But without knowing how these 2 had been playing it up to then I'll refrain from saying something like "horrible play" here.

        And to the good the raise to 300 by ant at least controls pot size if a bad card turns which gives him OPTIONS. What do you do here if you jam guitaplaya?--which seems to be what you're suggesting the proper play to be and ginger DOES come along. The 7 falls and you twiddle your thumbs on the rail waiting for the next PSO is what. If a card that does'nt fit the board like a 10 or Q or something turns you can always bet out aggressively again to try and move any draws off the pot. Something too many here just don't seem to get about shoving--once you do the poker has ENDED for that hand---now it's down to who gets lucky and who does'nt. Everytime,EVERYTIME,I jam a pot and someone ends up sucking out on me,even on a 1 or 2 outer,I need to resolve myself with the fact that yes,they may have made a terrible call,but I'M the one who put my chips at risk on a fall of the cards and left myself no outs.

        So I do completely agree with the AA player getting exactly what he had coming for limping AA. But I do not agree with the observation that ant made a horrible play with the raise to 300 post flop. He told the other 2 players that they are very likely behind at that point,it gave himself a chance to get away from the hand if a bad card turns(which is exactly what happened BTW),and it gives him a chance to fire another,possibly even more aggressive shell if a card that does'nt connect turns.

        I think ant played the hand solidly and limited his damage in a hand that went from good to trash in 1 card.
        Last edited by Moxie Pip; Tue Feb 15, 2011, 11:51 PM.

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        • #5
          thanks moxie utg limp with 55 is the correct play is it not???

          as for the flop i hit trips but str8 away i know that devil may well have str8 draws as he was as loose as a hos' fanjina so i put out half pot bet hoping to fire the turn if it wernt another draw card but as it turned out it was so when theres a huge raise and an all in before me i can easily fold in my spot and had chips spare to go again as for the river i dont need to assume the odds off me hitting quads so on the basis of them odds my play was correct no??

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          • #6
            Limping with 55 UTG with your stack was just barely correct in my opinion. If you had a couple hundred less chips a fold would have been better.

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            • #7
              Ummmm.... how about???

              ...
              Last edited by chelle867; Wed Feb 16, 2011, 04:38 AM. Reason: no big deal

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              • #8
                ** Moved **

                Originally posted by antlovesang1 View Post
                *** RIVER *** [4d 6h 5s 7h] [5c]
                *** SHOW DOWN ***
                gingerdevil: shows [2h 8h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
                horsearound6: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
                I'm more interested in why gingerdevil's hand was called a strait instead of a flush?

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                • #9
                  oops sorry trump i meant the str on the turn i was speaking in terms of draws etc not his hand in particular

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                  • #10
                    Its the hand history that calls the hand a strait instead of the flush that gets to me. First time I've seen an error in how a hand was read by the software. I'd send the original hand history to support and see what they had to say.

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                    • #11
                      there isnt a flush is there lol???

                      all i see is 6H 7H and devils 2 Hs

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by antlovesang1 View Post
                        PokerStars Game #57721866187: Tournament #360452893, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/02/15 20:32:16 WET [2011/02/15 15:32:16 ET]
                        Table '360452893 105' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
                        ...
                        *** RIVER *** [4d 6h 5s 7h] [5c]
                        *** SHOW DOWN ***
                        gingerdevil: shows [2h 8h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
                        horsearound6: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
                        gingerdevil collected 3470 from pot
                        horsearound6 finished the tournament in 903rd place
                        *** SUMMARY ***
                        ...
                        Originally posted by TrumpinJoe View Post
                        Its the hand history that calls the hand a strait instead of the flush that gets to me. First time I've seen an error in how a hand was read by the software. I'd send the original hand history to support and see what they had to say.
                        I don't see anything wrong with the HH... It clearly shows a 4-8 straight with four hearts, not five. You had a rainbow flop with a second heart on the turn, followed by the solo club on the board for the river with a couple hearts in the hole does not a flush make.

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                        • #13
                          Guess I misread the HH. My bad!

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