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  • Variance Question

    As a follow-up on Dr Ellen's I wish to seek your thoughts on this question:

    Can variance ever be beneficial?

    Please ponder this a bit before you reply.

  • #2
    Of course, it keeps bad players in the game
    Bracelet Winner


    • #3
      Hi Trumping Joe,

      my answer is yes. We (poker players) just tend to attribute an upswing to our good play rather than variance.

      There is a well know saying about running deep in MTT's.

      "you have to win your flips"

      or to put it another way

      "variance has to run your way"

      Grade b
      I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

      13 Time Bracelet Winner


      • #4
        Variance can definitely be beneficial.

        For one thing, it keeps the game interesting in the long term even if it can be infuriating (or exhilarating) in the short term, because poker would end up being pretty boring without the unexpected happening.

        Like Ovalman says, it also keeps bad players around, if they didn't win the odd big pot then they would probably never redeposit when they bust.


        • #5
          I actually ran into this playing a 3/6 limit game at a casino Saturday night and yes, it can be good for the game, as it can keep more fish in it.

          There were 2 really big fish at the table that would play anything and one was getting lucky and winning. When she walked away from the table to go to the restroom, the guy in the 1 seat started going off about her bad play (beat him out of a HUGE pot where it was capped pre and 6 saw the flop... she won with 29o on a board that ran out 78TJ. The player to my left turned to him and said "Don't worry, it's good for the game." I didn't say anything, but just turned and smiled to the guy on my left. Glad she stayed too, as she dumped off about $50 of it to me.

          If taking a beat every so often keeps the fish around... don't tap the glass.

          John (JWK24)

          6 Time Bracelet Winner


          • #6
            Can variance ever be beneficial?

            Yeah. If there was no luck in poker, Phil Hellmuth would win every tournament.
            Bracelet Winner


            • #7
              If there was no luck in poker, maratik wouldn't wont a million for just 40 FPP's.


              • #8
                If you are a good player, playing within his roll, putting in enough volume, then variance is the best thing in poker for you. If you remove the variance completely, bad players could NEVER win, so bad players would never play. This would make everybody a loser.


                • #9
                  Excellent answers above, one player who would not agree that variance is beneficial would be Mingus44, one flip away from a $24,900 pay jump today!



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