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    Currently playing a .25 45-man SNG.
    I have royalraise85 on my left
    (and I just donked out as opponent rivered str8 on my overpair

    I notice he plays mostly fast.
    Now, in 45-mans, as we start off with only 5 tables, I tend to play a bit slow.
    The reasoning being, let the other tables play fast, mortality is pretty high in these, etc.

    I don't run the clock big time, just play at a reasonable pace... and I do tend to get a bit annoyed when quite a few people at the table play really fast.

    Now, since rr is a mod here, he obviously has experience and his stats are good... I'm asking him, and everyone else, advantages and disadvantages of playing fast, especially in 5-table tourneys?

  • #2
    No advantage imo, I try make it to blind level 100/200 this is were they tighten up you steal the blinds.

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    • #3
      That opponent does play fast but also makes some very bad decisions. I'd definitely label him as LAG. His decision to call you there was terrible in my opinion and I wouldn't worry bout' the suckout. If I'm confident that I'm well ahead I'll usually try to get the chips in good and fast, otherwise I'll take my time making a decision without giving away any time tells. Usually I'll try to make the clock work to my advantage depending on tournament structure etc, if you can make the clock work for you go for it. Raiser umbup:

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      • #4
        I try to play quicker earlier and then slow down some toward the bubble. This way I can see more hands when the blinds are lower, giving me a better chance to get a better hand and gain some chips before the blinds go up and the antes kick in. With all the stations, maniacs, etc still in... I want as many hands as I can, to try and get a hand to take thier chips. Now, where I will play slower or even use clock is especially at the bubble. If I can get enough time in to make the blinds go up on a short stack, where they may have been able to sneak in for the current level if I played faster.. then I'll make sure they pay the extra in blinds. Hope this helps.umbup: John (JWK24)
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        • #5
          Oh he definitely was a Bingo Boy. Suckouts will happen, no (big) problem, especially since it's .25s.
          What I noticed though, is that you (rr) were playing rather (consistently) fast.
          I will play fast in spots, to make it a tell, but generally, i tend to slow it down a bit. Just a bit, mind you, almost never time-bank, play the same medium-slow pace.

          Now, I'd really like to hear from people here, why is it not good to play slowish in things like 5-table tourneys. At the final table, it makes no difference, but when there's other tables to go, these pay 7 places, my idea is the slower the better, and I tend to identify donks by the fact that they play fast. I don't seem to be wrong on that, usually, so... as rr is obviously no donk (I pokerprolabbed him ... what can the advantages of playing fast in these thing be?

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          • #6
            giving me a better chance to get a better hand and gain some chips before the blinds go up
            Ok, I can see a point there. I'll think about it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
              I try to play quicker earlier and then slow down some toward the bubble. This way I can see more hands when the blinds are lower, giving me a better chance to get a better hand and gain some chips before the blinds go up and the antes kick in. With all the stations, maniacs, etc still in... I want as many hands as I can, to try and get a hand to take thier chips. Now, where I will play slower or even use clock is especially at the bubble. If I can get enough time in to make the blinds go up on a short stack, where they may have been able to sneak in for the current level if I played faster.. then I'll make sure they pay the extra in blinds. Hope this helps.umbup: John (JWK24)
              the bubble in a 45 man game is on the final table so there is no advantance to clocking at the bubble in these. I have never clocked in these. It is true that you get some donks go out quick. But only 7 get paid, so unless you think you have 38/39 donks in them,by timing you are getting to final table with a bigger chip disavantage Grade b
              I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

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              • #8
                I just realised that when fast-players particularly annoy me is when there is one other table left

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                • #9
                  Hi grade b!

                  For 90's, i'll clock at bubble.... for 45's I'll clock to get to FT. Sorry.

                  John (JWK24)
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                  • #10
                    Note to self, In order to tilt Don B. Chilly.....

                    Actually just realised I do sometimes clock in these. Like anytime someone types ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ into chat for another player and i think its bugging them.

                    Grade b
                    I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. ~Winston Churchill

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                    • #11
                      Don B. Chilly is great!
                      I hope no-one beats me to it on Twitter etc

                      The zzzzzz thing too, how did I never think of that.
                      Cause if I try to say anything like, hey, is it a good idea to play fast when there's another table left... the result is that everyone plays faster, whereas, with reverse-psycholgy...

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                      • #12
                        If I know I can tilt someone in ANY tourney by clocking..... trust me, it's getting used.
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                        • #13
                          lol jwk took the print right off my fingers so to speak ...if I see the zzzzz I usually give em the " Save it, write a book." chirp just to dig the splinter in a little deeper lol.... sure sign your getting on a nerve
                          Hi don b one thing I could add is play to your comfort zone as far as quick play goes...too fast and I find I can easily make a mistake or worse a miss click..... got a saying in the stone bizz "Hurry up and f^*& it up..." ...... that sort of applies here

                          cheers r0ck
                          Last edited by r0ck.carver; Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:36 AM. Reason: oops

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