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    BANKROLL BUILDER PROMOTION, love the sound of that, but I love the sound of that monster trip hand getting folded to an outright bluff even more, and its against the Tight Passive players it can be done regularly, especially from the SB or BB in STT's when they are holding QQ, JJ and flop the trips but also along with big drawing hands like AK with that Q or J and they slow play the trips and then don't know what to on the flop when the 10 hits or even a big flush draw, and being first to act it can be done just by check calling the turn then shoving the river, MOSTLY inexperienced passive players if they are serious about there game 7 out of 10 times will fold there trips works best in 50/50 games with 6-7 players left, Let me try this with Bankroll Builder Please guys
    Last edited by murraycraig; Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:04 PM. Reason: the heading of it had to be Bankroll Builder DIDNT GET IT

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    • #3
      Hello, You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job! NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future First Step Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey. After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about. Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer. Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course. So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus. 1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video 2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer 3) Pass the Poker Basic course. Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed. Best of Luck! Raiser umbup:

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      • #4
        how on earth can i play play money games with these fools,
        Last edited by royalraise85; Mon Dec 23, 2013, 02:50 PM.

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        • #5
          Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

          He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

          Cheers.

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          • #6
            wondring how long until i might be able to get the $8 to start at the 1/2c tables, im itchingta play at a real table

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            • #7
              Originally posted by murraycraig View Post
              wondring how long until i might be able to get the $8 to start at the 1/2c tables, im itchingta play at a real table
              Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team

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              • #8
                Hi murraycraig,

                In poker there is a large element of luck in the short-term. However if you carry on making correct decisions and getting it in with the best hand, you will win in the long run.

                It is basically NEVER correct to fold AA preflop in a normal tournament or ring game. Although your chances of winning the hand drop as more players enter the pot, the amount you can win also increases massively. Against these specific hands, your chances of winning the hand are only 50%. No one else has a better than 18% chance of winning the hand.

                If other people want to go all in with rubbish hands and gamble, you can't control that. All you can control is your own play and if you make the right decisions, you will be a winner.

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                • #9
                  Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team. We will reply to your thread on December 27th.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by murraycraig View Post
                    how on earth can i play play money games with these fools,
                    Hi murraycraig! You made a standard raise and called the all in preflop with AA. You played the hand very wellumbup: This will be very profitable in the long run with AA. In poker we need to get comfortable with making right moves, but getting wrong results. It is part of the game. Note, strong startng hands can and do lose. This is why it is usually preferable to commit all our chips postflop rather than preflop. With KK and AA getting in preflop is almost always good though. Against 4 random opponents, you have about a 55% equity in the hand while the others have about 11% each. GL and have fun at the tables! Roland GTX

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                    • #11
                      Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team. We will reply to your thread on December 27th.

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                      • #12
                        Now I know that while holding AA and against 4 rubish hands all-in preflop im about 50% chance while they are about 18% chance each but what about if i had KK against 2 others holding say A5 and A9 and them both having only 2 outs? would I be right in my workings out that preflop they should be about 20%to my 80%, then turn 9%, river about 4-5% to my 95%?

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                        • #13
                          Getting beyond a joke Hi there, Iv been playing here for 1 week now and I cant believe the stuff Im seeing here, now im sure that you and the rest of the PokerStars team must hear this all the time, but I have some serious concerns about the PS software and your RANDOM card genorator, Iv picked up on a few things and it could be just at the low limit tables just to make the payouts more spread out evenly but im being able to watch my table and call the river card and get it right about 15-20% of the time, The biggest thing iv noticed is that when there is an all-in preflop the worst starting hand will win about 70-75% of the time, even though the hand I have posted here in this message wasnt an all-in preflop as soon as I seen AA at the zoom table I called to 2 of my friends an I said to them come and watch AA get smashed, Im not sure how its going to happen but guys if I end up being able to get all my coin in the middle it will get smashed as soon as the all-in is anounced, now this all-in preflop thing is not just a theory and its not just me iv seen alot of hand here at PS this week and I cant beleive it when the best starting hand actually takes down a pot at showdown, now thats that. The other part of the game which seems to be happening is that for every action there is a reaction, this is where my river calling comes in to it, when you can sit there and predict not just the card but the suit of it aswell and get it right, as I said about 15-20% of the time you know that the cards can not be as random as if it was live, now it seems that PokerStars has taken the PSO way to far because in situations like if I was on the button a made a stupid fold due to pot odds or something like that I will predict that river card more like 65-75% of the time its like there trying to teach low limit players how to play during the games as I said for every action there is a reaction, and Im telling this to you because Im guessing to be a hand analyser you must see alot of hand s especially from the low limit players, and of course you wont tell me if im right or even if you think the same sort of thoughts, but tell me this at least is it different at the higher stakes at all or does the best starting hand just keep getting sharfted when they get a caller with there shove preflop?
                          Originally posted by spand42 View Post
                          Hi murraycraig, In poker there is a large element of luck in the short-term. However if you carry on making correct decisions and getting it in with the best hand, you will win in the long run. It is basically NEVER correct to fold AA preflop in a normal tournament or ring game. Although your chances of winning the hand drop as more players enter the pot, the amount you can win also increases massively. Against these specific hands, your chances of winning the hand are only 50%. No one else has a better than 18% chance of winning the hand. If other people want to go all in with rubbish hands and gamble, you can't control that. All you can control is your own play and if you make the right decisions, you will be a winner.
                          Last edited by murraycraig; Thu Dec 26, 2013, 06:30 PM. Reason: wrong hand

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                          • #14
                            Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

                            He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

                            Cheers.

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                            • #15
                              exactly what i mean I just finished winning a 6plr sit"n"go and I was telling the last 2 guys about my software theories which of course probly like you think they thought I was full of it, its a perfect example because it shows what I mean about the PSO going into our games (reaction for every action) and I had just finished saying that only ever slow play a hand if you have the absolute nuts because if you can some how be beaten you will be,and after the flop I noticed a lil hesitation by my opponent then a check, straight away I said (hope you can see this hand with chat enabled)5 on the river cause I put him on the K top pair slowplaying as it turned out I was exactly right he did slow play his K and guess what came on the river? of course it was the 5, the best part is it happen about 2 or 3 hands after I ad told them this so they tested it out and I just proved without a doudt the software is floored somwhere,
                              Originally posted by murraycraig View Post
                              Hi there, Iv been playing here for 1 week now and I cant believe the stuff Im seeing here, now im sure that you and the rest of the PokerStars team must hear this all the time, but I have some serious concerns about the PS software and your RANDOM card genorator, Iv picked up on a few things and it could be just at the low limit tables just to make the payouts more spread out evenly but im being able to watch my table and call the river card and get it right about 15-20% of the time, The biggest thing iv noticed is that when there is an all-in preflop the worst starting hand will win about 70-75% of the time, even though the hand I have posted here in this message wasnt an all-in preflop as soon as I seen AA at the zoom table I called to 2 of my friends an I said to them come and watch AA get smashed, Im not sure how its going to happen but guys if I end up being able to get all my coin in the middle it will get smashed as soon as the all-in is anounced, now this all-in preflop thing is not just a theory and its not just me iv seen alot of hand here at PS this week and I cant beleive it when the best starting hand actually takes down a pot at showdown, now thats that. The other part of the game which seems to be happening is that for every action there is a reaction, this is where my river calling comes in to it, when you can sit there and predict not just the card but the suit of it aswell and get it right, as I said about 15-20% of the time you know that the cards can not be as random as if it was live, now it seems that PokerStars has taken the PSO way to far because in situations like if I was on the button a made a stupid fold due to pot odds or something like that I will predict that river card more like 65-75% of the time its like there trying to teach low limit players how to play during the games as I said for every action there is a reaction, and Im telling this to you because Im guessing to be a hand analyser you must see alot of hand s especially from the low limit players, and of course you wont tell me if im right or even if you think the same sort of thoughts, but tell me this at least is it different at the higher stakes at all or does the best starting hand just keep getting sharfted when they get a caller with there shove preflop?

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