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    Hi to all at PokerSchoolonline

    I recently signed up to PokerStars and have not yet made a deposit. I would like to use the Bankroll builder promotion. Am I still eligible?

    Thanks

  • #2
    Hi Ericcan007, You are eligible for the Bank Roll Builder promo!umbup: The next thing that you will need to do is to attend one of the 'Getting Started With Pokerstars' live training sessions. Please let me know after you have attended this session. Also, you can be practicing on the play money NL ring tables and please post a hand that you were not sure about, using the hand replayer. Here's a short video on how to use the Hand Replayer
    John (JWK24)
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    • #3
      Bnakroll Builder - Hand Analyser
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      Hi John I have done the getting started course and have played on the Play money tables over Xmas. It has taken me a while to learn how to get the previous hand details in code form, hence my delay in replying, but I think I have finally figured it. I'm interested in your view on this hand I just played with AK. Should I have folded on the River? My opponent was playing loose aggressive and so I put him on a lower range than he had, therefore I called

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      • #4
        Hi Ericcan007! That's ok. Take the time that you need. With AK (or any other hand that I want to raise with), I'm going to make a standard opening raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 3 limpers, I'll raise to 6BB or 60 chips. By making standard raises, the opps won't get a clue as to the strength of my hand, as I'll make the same raise with AA, 77, 33, AK, JT or a total bluff. When players bet more with a good hand and less with a marginal one, the opps are able to get a read on what type of cards they have. I see the flop 7-ways and get a gutshot straight draw with two overcards. When it checkst to me, I'm going to check behind and hope to see a free card. My plan will be that if an opp makes a small bet, I'll call and see the turn, but if they make a large bet, I need to muck. When seat 9 bets 10 into a 710 chip pot, I will call, as I'm definitely getting the correct odds to see the turn. The turn gives me top pair, but completes a straight and puts a second flush draw out there. When it checks to me, I'm going to make a value/blocking bet here. I'll bet 300 here and hope that I don't get raised. This will also help to define the opp's hands. When seat 9 shoves, with only top pair, I'm going to muck here as there are too many combinations of cards that can beat me. Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.umbup: John (JWK24)
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        • #5
          Hi Ericcan007!

          Now we want to get you playing on the real money tables. Next up, and spend some time on this one , study the Poker Basic Course and take the basic assessment quiz at the end of that course.

          Once you have passed this quiz, please let us know and your first buy-in will be credited into your account within 24 hours of passing it and notifying us. Remember you can earn up to a total of $8 with this promotion.

          Use this first buy-in to then play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables only on PokerStars. Post back here when you get your first buy-in and start playing these games and we'll continue on from there.

          John (JWK24)
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          • #6
            Bankroll builder - Poker basics course

            Hi John

            Thanks very much for your detailed analysis of the hand I sent you. It was very useful for me. The hand replayer certainly is an amazing tool!

            Regarding continuing the bankroll builder, I have already completed the Poker Basics course, and have passed the quiz at the end. Is that ok?

            You mention about playing 1/2 cent NL full ring tables. Please excuse my ignorance on the jargon, but by full ring, do you mean the 9 seat tables as opposed to the 6max tables?

            Thanks again for your help.

            Jeremy (Ericcan007)

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            • #7
              Hi Ericcan007!

              The full ring tables are the 9 player tables. The ones with 6 players are called 6-max tables.

              Congrats on passing the quiz. Your first buy-in will be credited into your account within 24 hours. Remember you can earn up to a total of $8 with this promotion.

              Use this first buy-in to then only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Don't worry if you lose this first buy-in as you will be able to earn another buy-in should this happen.

              Use all that you have learned so far to try some real money games (1/2 cent tables). Post any hands that you have difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze them for you.

              Also, please attend the 'Bet Sizing' live training session. This session can be found daily in the Live Training section.

              Please let me know when you receive the buy-in and attend the training session.

              John (JWK24)
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              • #8
                Bet Size Video done and 1 Hand analysis
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                Hi John I have now received the BR and have attended the bet sizing training. I have also been playing the 0.01/0.02 FR tables and have a few hands I would like you to analyse. The 1st one is attached. My initial strategy was to blind steal thinking a K6 suited hand could hold up if I'm called. Not sure I should be playing this at this stage in my education? having flopped a possible Flush draw, I'm planning to bet, but my opponent bets 4BB 1st, so I only called. Think this was a mistake- should have raised or folded? My last bet was an attempt to take down the pot without showdown, as I put him on Ax, but I think it was too small to achieve this. Basically, I think I payed this all wrong for my strategy. How should I have played the hand? Cheers Jeremy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ericcan007 View Post
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                  Hi John I have now received the BR and have attended the bet sizing training. I have also been playing the 0.01/0.02 FR tables and have a few hands I would like you to analyse. The 1st one is attached. My initial strategy was to blind steal thinking a K6 suited hand could hold up if I'm called. Not sure I should be playing this at this stage in my education? having flopped a possible Flush draw, I'm planning to bet, but my opponent bets 4BB 1st, so I only called. Think this was a mistake- should have raised or folded? My last bet was an attempt to take down the pot without showdown, as I put him on Ax, but I think it was too small to achieve this. Basically, I think I payed this all wrong for my strategy. How should I have played the hand? Cheers Jeremy
                  Hi Ericcan007 Interesting hand! here are my thoughts. Preflop, I suggest folding K6s here. There are two limpers in the pot. They are likely to be holding better hands than us such as pocket pairs, Ax or maybe KQ type of hands. If the pot were unopened AND the blinds were tight, then perhaps you could steal the blinds by raising. In general, I would be folding K6s pretty much every time though. As played, if you are going to play the hand, then make a standard raise size, which would be 3bb plus 1 bb for each limper. Bet 8 rather than 6 here. You got about the best flop you could hope for. There are two spades on the board including the A. This means you are now drawing for the nut flush. Calling the flop bet is fine. You have good enough odds to continue, but you don't have a made hand yet. So, calling, as you did, is better than raising. The turn gives you bottom pair. The villain leads out with another small bet. He seems to like his hand. He called your preflop raise, and has bet each street since then. Any pair he has is likely to be better than yours. Since the villain only bet 6 cents, you are still getting good odds to continue. Good call. Now, the river is a blank and the villain checks to you. You didn't get a flush. So, we cannot bet for value here. You do have a pair though. So, you can either bet as a bluff hoping the villain will fold a better hand. If he has an A this is unlikely. If he does't have an A then your bet was large enough to get him to fold I think. I would not bet more than you did on a bluff. furthermore, if he reraises you, you will have to fold. Your best option is to check the hand down. Since you have a pair, you do have some showdown value. You played the hand ok, and your thoughts indicate that you are moving in the right direction. Keep at it And remember to be selective with our starting hands. GL and have fun at the tables! Roland GTX

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                  • #10
                    Bankroll builder Hi all Thanks for the analysis. I knew I should not have played the hand. I got a little carried away with blind stealing, which had been very successful for me until then. Is there anything I should be doing for the Bankroll Builder promotion? I have done all the courses and live training you asked me to do. I have also been playing in the Daily cash game. I still have the initial $2 put on my account which has now grown to $4. I have a couple of hands I would like you to analyse: 1) hole cards JJ, Flop JQQ, Turn Q , River A - Villian had A7s for a better full house I know I should have bet 8c at first (3BB plus 1BB for the limper). I have the following questions on this hand: a) I bet pot size after the flop, having flopped a full house. Was this too big given I was aiming to build the pot thinking I had the nuts? b) I checked after a Queen on the turn. The reason for this was that the villian could have had the other Queen for quads and I felt he must have a very good hand to call my pot size bet - either a high pair or AK. If he had AA or KK he now had the best hand. If he had AK he had 7 outs. Should I have fired in a bet to try and take down the pot here? c) Should I have folded when he bet on the River? He had checked on the Turn and then bet very small on the River, making me think hewasn't sure of his hand, and I thought my Full house may be good. I also felt I was getting good odds on my 6cents. This second hand came very soon after the one above. I'm interested in whether you think I was right to fold my pocket queens. I put the villain on AT giving him 2 pair, but I'm wondering whether I folded too quickly still think about the hand above. Thanks Jeremy

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                    • #11
                      Bankroll Builder Hi All Here is the hand replayer from the 1st hand I sent in the last thread. It didn't work when I replayed it Jeremy

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                      • #12
                        Hi Ericcan007!

                        Please keep playing with the buy-in as long as you can. If you lose it, don't worry, we'll then move onto the next step. If you can get to 10vpp's with this buy-in, we'll also move onto the next step.

                        John (JWK24)
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                        • #13
                          Hi Ericcan007

                          Interesting hands! Let's take a closer look.

                          First hand JJ: Yes, 8 cents preflop would have been better. Pocket pairs play best vs a single opponent. We don't want to get a string of callers here.

                          You flop the nuts on a board that very likely hit one of the other opponents. Normally in these spots I bet half the pot. This gives anyone chasing a flush or straight decent odds to continue. However, if I felt confident that one of the opponents would call a larger bet, then get more. It gives you more value.

                          The turn changes everything. Now your set has been counterfitted since there are 3 Qs showing. You are now essentially holding just a pair of Js. You are still very likely to have the best hand at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about the possibility of someone having the fourth Q. But, any K or A on the river is going to be a disaster for you. You definately want to make a solid bet here. I would suggest about 70% of the pot.

                          As played, 6cent bet on the river is so small compared to the pot, I think you have to pay him off. There is always a chance his is bluffing.

                          The main thing notice with this hand is how the third Q effects the hand, and why this makes it important to bet the turn.

                          Second hand QQ: Let's start preflop. Reads on the villains would help a lot here. If two tight players entered the pot, I might just call the pf raise and reevaluate on the flop. If both players were laggy, then I would 3-bet as you did. If you get called, you are going to be playing a large pot out of position.

                          The A on the flop is scary, however, I think I would have fired a c-bet. The A might be scary for your opps as well. If you get reraised, then you can easily fold.

                          As played, everyone checked the flop, then villain 8 makes a solid bet on the 3 of clubs turn. This could be a bluff since nobody bet the flop. It could be he has top pair with Ax. Or he may have a set. It is hard to say, but since he raise-called preflop, we have to assume he has some sort of hand. Ax seems likely. I don't like to risk my whole stack with "just a pair". Now we do not even have top pair. Folding is the best choice - well done!

                          Learning to let go of premium starting hands when it seems likely we are beat is an important lession. I'm happy to see you have learned it

                          GL and have fun at the tables!

                          Roland GTX

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                          • #14
                            Hi John and Roland Thanks for the information and the super info on the hand analysis. Glad to hear laying down the QQs was right. Also understand the point about the bet on the turn in the JJ hands. In these situations I have tendency to check my hand to see what the villain will do, showing weakness, and then become a bit of a calling station. Need to iron this out. Trying to play agressively without losing my stack. Regarding the next step of the promotion, I have 12 VPPs as far as I can see and I also have 12.24 Frequent Player Points (are these the same thing?). My current bankroll is $3.46. I also have the hand below I would like your views on. I had AKo, which is a hand I struggle to play, especially when I don't connect with the flop.
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                            • #15
                              Hi Ericcan007!

                              It's time to now attend the Cash Basics live training session.

                              Also, study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

                              Once you've passed the quiz and attended the live training session, post back here and we'll continue.

                              John (JWK24)
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