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    Hi guys,

    I've signed up to PSO, passed the "poker basics" course and played a few freerolls since, am I good for the promotion ?

    Thanks

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    Originally posted by Hefeydd View Post
    Hi guys, I've signed up to PSO, passed the "poker basics" course and played a few freerolls since, am I good for the promotion ? Thanks
    Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline! >>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer. We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschooline.com and best of luck to you at the tables! Raiser umbup:
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    • #3
      Hi, You are eligible for the Bank Roll Builder promo!umbup: The next thing that you will need to do is to attend one of the 'Getting Started With Pokerstars' live training sessions. Please let me know after you have attended this session. Also, please practice on the play money NL 9-max tables (full ring) and please post a hand that you were not sure about using the hand replayer. Here is a video tutorial on how to use the hand replayer.

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      • #4
        Hi, here are the latest news... I've just attended to the "Getting started" live training, and since they were all in a row, I've also followed the "bet sizing" and the "cash basics" ones Regarding the Play money hand, I was wondering in this one if betting the river for value was a good thing or not, since at that point, I could well be facing a flush and lose
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        • #5
          Hi, What reads did you have on the villain? How active where they at the table? Read less, I'm going to be betting for value flop, turn, and river for 3/4 75% pot! There is a wide limping range that connect well with that board texture (Jx, Ax, Khigh, inside straight draw, flush draw, mid pocket pair etc..)umbup: A set of 3's is so disguised on this board texture, the villains won't know what hit them in this type of scenario! Well played and nice pot for a scoop! The next stage in your Bank Roll Builder, please take the Basic Assessment Quiz, once you've finished it, let me know and your 1st Bank Roll Builder buy-in will be awarded to you! Good luck!

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          • #6
            ok, basic quizz passed For the record, concerning the hand with the set, players involved were pretty loose/passive preflop and much tighter postflop thanks for your help umbup: Hoping to have the same hands to play on the real tables...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hefeydd View Post
              ok, basic quizz passed For the record, concerning the hand with the set, players involved were pretty loose/passive preflop and much tighter postflop thanks for your help umbup: Hoping to have the same hands to play on the real tables...
              Well done on the Quiz! I like that you remember the villains tendencies! Start taking notes/color coding at the real money tables about villain tendencies/hand ranges just in case you are to play them again at a different table during your next session. Your 1st Bank Roll Roll Builder buy-in will be awarded to you within the next 24 hours, please use this buy-in at a full table of 9 players 1/2c 9-max NLHE. If you encounter any situations that you had difficulty with, post a hand replay here and I'll assist you. Best of luck to you at the tables.

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              • #8
                I've started to play at the cash tables, things are not going too bad for now... There was a hand I didn't really know how to handle it though The guy was pretty tight, so I decided to play it safe, but I hesitated with a call... but if I suspect the guy is trying to steal the blinds, and if I decide to play the hand, what's the best way to do it with a speculative hand like J8s ? flat calling to see a flop or reraising him ? What's my next step now (besides crushing everyone at the table, of course ) ?
                Last edited by Hefeydd; Fri Dec 07, 2012, 07:06 PM.

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                • #9
                  Here's another one I tried to make him put money in by only calling his bets... and the result wasn't good Did I play it too passively or is it just bad beat ?
                  Last edited by Hefeydd; Fri Dec 07, 2012, 07:04 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Honestly guys, can you believe this ?? I knew the guy was crazy since he played each and every hands since he sat down, but at this point
                    Last edited by Hefeydd; Fri Dec 07, 2012, 07:05 PM.

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                    • #11
                      in a heads up pot with position on the villain it's an ok call versus both loose and tight villains with a stack depth of 50bb. It has a lot of post flop potential in terms of draws (flush + straights). 3betting and inflating vs. a loose villain that attempts steals to often is good as we can take down the pot uncontested pre-flop, but it's entirely dependent on their tendencies...example to they attempt to steal frequently but fold to a 3bet defend? Do they steal and flat 3bets often? 3betting vs. a tight villain with pre-flop...i wouldn't do..their range is perceived as strong..flat call and see a flop is best in my opinion. What where your reads on villain9? Flat calling the villains 3x open is fine, there will be to many flops that we will not feel comfortable betting for value. On the flop I'd raise to 24c or 30c as there is a wide range of hands to get value from (JJ QQ KK AA, AT KT QT JT QJ KJ J8[off suit and suited]) and to many turn cards kill my action. On the turn, if the villain leads into me we've set up the pot size on the flop to get our stack in on the turn.umbup: As for the river play, we played our hand like a flush draw essentially turning a set of 9's into a bluff. As for bet sizing on the river.. 1/2 pot is what I'd bet..betting full pot might be value owning our self if the villain is known to be betting draws..if that's the case checking back the river is fine too.umbup: Since villain9 was playing really loose and they have played every hand(but what where their post flop tendencies?)...I'd raise KK up to 32c to get max value. The flop, interesting spot.. what where your reads on villain7 and more importantly when we shoved all in what range of worse hands where we trying to get value from? There will be juicy players that call ATC(any two cards) and get to showdown with marginal holdings...that's who we want at the tables...that's what keeps the games profitable. umbup: Please take the Cash Game Quiz, this is the next step in your Bank Roll Builder. Let me know once you have passed it and your 2nd buy-in will be awarded to you! Good luck.

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                      • #12
                        ok, i've just passed the cash quizz... thanks for the detailed comments, will look into it closely umbup:

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hefeydd View Post
                          ok, i've just passed the cash quizz... thanks for the detailed comments, will look into it closely umbup:
                          Well done on the Cash Game Quiz!umbup: Your 2nd Bank Roll Builder buy-in will be awarded to you within the next 24 hours! Let me know once you have received it. One question, what key differences have you noticed transitioning from play money to real money in terms of player tendencies and skill edge? Best of luck to you at the tables! If you have any questions about full ring NLHE..ask them..don't be shy! CannonLee

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                          • #14
                            Your 2nd Bank Roll Builder buy-in will be awarded to you within the next 24 hours!
                            2nd buy-in well received within 24hrs, and unfortunately, lost within just the same delays and basically, on just one hand I've tried to analyse the hand myself today and I think I messed up on the turn and river...please, tell me if my conclusions are correct or not The villain was a loose and very passive player, I've seen him limping UTG with AA, or limping UTG+1 with A8o, so I knew he could have almost anything from Aces down to A2+ On the flop, I bet 2/3 of the pot because I knew there was a lot of holdings he would pay me with, from overcards, flush draw, medium pair, he could have made top pair, and so on. The turn was pretty scary, in the worst case scenario with holdings like AKs or AQs he could have up to 17 outs to beat me on the river (if I count them well ), so I guess my turn bet was clearly too small since I give him pot odds good enough to make a profitable call. And on the river, the raise from a passive player never smells good, so I probably should have folded and saved me a few chips there. From here, I ended with 2 options for handling that hand : 1 - the conservative one, by checking the turn to safely see what comes next, since he is passive, there's little chance that he bets the turn himself, but I'm not sure giving him a free card is the best thing to do here... 2 - the aggressive one, by betting at least twice the pot on the turn to force him making a mistake if he decides to call. But in this case, let's say I'm going with a $1 bet, if he calls I find myself with $0.60 left in a pot of $2.40, so if he puts me all-in on the river I guess I'm doomed to call and lose all my chips anyway. Therefore, I'd be better off going all-in on the turn (logically, the only hands that have me beat at this point are A3s and pocket 5s since despite being passive, he would probably have raised my flop bet with a set or AA-QQ). This way even if he calls me and wins the hand, at least this time, he is the one making the mistake, and if I learned my lessons well, that's what I'm looking for, right ? So, in your opinion, what would be the best way to play that turn in the end ? And the bonus question : what should I do if the turn card is even worse, like Ac Kc or Qc ?
                            what key differences have you noticed transitioning from play money to real money in terms of player tendencies and skill edge?
                            Well, I didn't play a lot of hands on play money tables to make a real comparison, but I'd say the difference is quite simple : on a full-ring table, in play money you have 6 loose players for 3 tight while in real money it's 6 tight for 3 loose. And on the hands I played in play money, the preflop game was limited to 3 options : folding, limping or going all-in, there was very few standard raises

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                            • #15
                              Based on the first hand analysis that I've done in your thread, it's clear that you have absorbed the information well! Definitely like what I see! You played the hand well on all streets. As for over betting the turn, that is not really something we wan't to do even though there are 2 flush draws present, your bet sizing was perfect on the turn, we want them to call.. On all streets this is how our hand matches up vs. villain1 pre-flop: 32% vs. 68% flop: 17% vs. 83% turn: 32% vs. 68% As you can see..we are a favourite to win the hand before the river. If the turn came we can check for pot control as now we have a flush draw and we do not wan't to be charging our self to draw.. let alone betting an getting raised by a higher made pair or flush. There are 3 reasons why we bet in poker: 1.) Bet for value 2.) Bet as a bluff 3.) Bet to collect dead money On the turn why where you betting? hint... exactly what range where you trying to get value from knowing that he was loose passive and you've seen their showdown range? On the river, you are spot on.. there is a very narrow range that will be floating our flop>turn bet that contain diamonds. We can elect to check call this river depending on villain1's bet sizing, overall I think our decision should be based on how often has villain1 made it passed the turn during your session and how often have they shown aggression.. Your 3rd Bank Roll Builder buy-in will be awarded to you within the next 24 hours! Best of luck to you at the tables!

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