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  • Small $ NLHE T

    Good lesson here on playing small stake Tourneys

    Stopped 2 play a $20 1k tc, $10 un lim rebuy 1rst hr 1k tc, $10 add on 2k tc at a Indian casino in middle of Nowhere America. 40 players 100-100 blinds 2 start and 15 min rnds. I play these rebuy T's as trap big and semi bluff very selectively in 1rst hr, then normal aggresive play after in the lg blinds shallow money play 2 follow. Start table had a good mix of experinced players a wild kid, a lady rock and dead $. got luk E on 3rd hand utg wth KK limped, Ded $ goes allin 600tc, solid playr
    mid pos calls and I go all in 1k and Mr solid calls. No A hits to help there hnds and I'm at 2800tc. 2 hnds later blnds stil 100-100 in sb wth 68s 2 limps( 1 Ded $) 2 me I and bb call. flop 379 rb, I bet 100, wnt 2 c a card, bb flds other 2 players cal, 700 in pot. Turns a 2, check all around. Rivers a 2 hmm I bet 500 on a steal but ded $ calls, late pos folds and I muk my cards. Was that a good play??
    1 later 200-100 in sb Ah Jc, 2 limpers 2 me bb and I check. Flop 3h 8h Th I check around 2 late pos kid who bets pot 800. I think flush drw or steal, other 2 were ded $ knew they wld fold. Had about 2200 in chips so I went all in on nutt flush drw and 2 overs, figged the kid (2k chips) wld fold and he did. Good Move??
    Later took some more ded $ when my 94o BB hit 2 9's on the flop. At the Break had $6500tc 2nd in chips at table, took the add on for $10 and started no rebuy phase with 8500 tc, 35 players left. Unfortunitly other table hand several loony's and I was only a mid stack 4 Tourney. Not much next half hr when moved 2 other table (27 left) 8k in chps I'm a smaller stack here. not much action anymore fish are mostly gone. 5 hands into table and I get 66 utg, 2k-1k blinds, now not a good hand but remember shallow $$, blinds going up soon and I need chips, the last 2 hands were won by utg going all in, so that what I did, all fold 2 sb who has 9k, she calls and bb folds, she lays down AK but no help comes and I double up. Was that a good move?
    Soon sent back 2 my old table were down to 20. No hands 2 play here, but was utg wth 13k and the blinds movin up nxt rnd. down to 11 and I looked at other table 2 see ss get called and knocked out Just the luk i needed to bring to final Table. BUT the button is dealt 2 players 2 my right and i get the BB 2 start 4k2k blnds, there are 4 players wth over 30k in chips and I'm ss in the big blind 2 boot. Can't play my blinds and I'm on deaths door. several hnds later in mid pos wth A9o when folded 2 me, well good as hand as any at this very tight table (at least 6 very good players here no fish) so I go all in, BB makes easy call but I double up when my A is good. Blinds killing me but I double up in mid pos next rnd with AT, A is good again. Have 12k in chps after posting sb (8k 4k blinds) all fold 2 me look down at 77, now were down to 7 players and Tourney pays 5,(1k 1rst $250 5th) there are 2 players 2 come who can't post there Blinds so I'm looking good 2 make 5th should I fold here?? nah.. I go all in against BB (40k) who is a smart tight player hoping he's holding 72o and call but alas he has KT and makes easy call and hits his K on the turn and I'm out 7th O well lots of good play 4 $30. What do u all think of my play? any comments appreciated. these are the T's
    begginer players are likely to play.

    Tony D

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    Nice report Tony. Please let me jump in and play monday morning quarterback.

    "2 hnds later blnds stil 100-100 in sb wth 68s 2 limps( 1 Ded $) 2 me I and bb call. flop 379 rb, I bet 100, wnt 2 c a card, bb flds other 2 players cal, 700 in pot. Turns a 2, check all around. Rivers a 2 hmm I bet 500 on a steal but ded $ calls, late pos folds and I muk my cards. Was that a good play??"

    Not really. You made 3.5 mistakes. Calling was the first one. with 2 limpers in front, you are getting 7-1 on your call with 68s. (But it was SOOOOOOOTED). So what? The odds against you flopping a flush draw are 9-1. And you might not win if you make the flush. The only flop you can like with this is the straight or straight draw, (12-1). You flop the straight draw (yay!) and make the second mistake. You bet 100 into a 400 pot. You have a draw against admitted dead money. Dont put money in until you are ahead. The other 3 players? you are giving them correct odds to call with overcards, much less middle or even bottom pair. The turn is the half mistake. You fired a bullet already. Fire another. You likely would have won the pot with a pot sized bet on the flop, by checking here you have announced that you are on a draw. Where are you going to win money on this hand? Then the river comes and again, you dont even make a pot sized bet. After showing weakness on the turn, it doesnt take a 'ded money' player to call this bet with any pair. A goot player is going to raise you with anything here. And when called, you just muck, not making the guy show you he was willing to call you down with his pair of 7's (my guess). Hindsight is a wonderful thing, eh?

    1 later 200-100 in sb Ah Jc, 2 limpers 2 me bb and I check. Flop 3h 8h Th I check around 2 late pos kid who bets pot 800. I think flush drw or steal, other 2 were ded $ knew they wld fold. Had about 2200 in chips so I went all in on nutt flush drw and 2 overs, figged the kid (2k chips) wld fold and he did. Good Move??

    Nope. You count on so-called "dead money' players to make bad calls. So, I say again, if they are going to call you when you are a big favorite, why give them a chance at a coin flip? Dont go all-in on a draw against a bad player. Now lets assume they arent in. Is it a good play to go all-in on your draw here against a good player? Sometimes. Certainly it isnt automatic. It worked this time.

    8k in chps I'm a smaller stack here. not much action anymore fish are mostly gone. 5 hands into table and I get 66 utg, 2k-1k blinds, now not a good hand but remember shallow $$, blinds going up soon and I need chips, the last 2 hands were won by utg going all in, so that what I did, all fold 2 sb who has 9k, she calls and bb folds, she lays down AK but no help comes and I double up. Was that a good move?

    Not nearly as bad as the earlier ones I already commented on, BUT,
    you CAN get throught the blinds here. I pretty much agree that your choices are all-in of fold, but folding should be an option. Face it, with your allin here you are betting your 8K to win 3k. You ARE going to be called somewhere and you are a coin flip at best. That said, I probably go all-in here, but I dont respect myself in the morning :lol:


    Have 12k in chps after posting sb (8k 4k blinds) all fold 2 me look down at 77, now were down to 7 players and Tourney pays 5,(1k 1rst $250 5th) there are 2 players 2 come who can't post there Blinds so I'm looking good 2 make 5th should I fold here?? nah.. I go all in against BB (40k) who is a smart tight player hoping he's holding 72o and call but alas he has KT and makes easy call and hits his K on the turn and I'm out 7th.

    Big mistake here Tony. But not for the reason you think. I agree with you that playing for 5th isnt what we do. No arguement. But raising a bigger stack when you are the SB is not a good move unless you have one of Freddie's legendary three hands. You are out of position, short stacked and at best, a small favorite here. In this position, with 77, I make the bad move of limp and fold unless I hit my set, but a really good player just folds.


    Sorry to criticize, hindsight is a wonderful thing. At least I didnt give you crap about spelling and grammer :lol:

    Bill

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    • #3
      If anyone else has any comments please jump in.

      Bill

      1. I know the steal was a bad move no arguments there.

      2. I checked raised all in earlier with the Kings so i set myself
      up as a Trapper, from the reads I got from the 2 fish I knew they would fold (yes I know about coin flips with ded $). I put the kid on a steal or draw at best. So I figged the Ah J was goot here.

      3. The last 2 blinds were bought by the utg going all in I didn't want to be short stacked down to less than 5k with blinds of
      4 & 2k, I would of had 3 callers with any move in that position.
      as per respecting myself in the Mourning...I always do when I play smart aggressive poker. :wink:

      4.Bill I disagree with folding 77 in this position and blind level
      remember the rounds are 15 mins and the blinds are going up about every 7 hands, (12k 4k next) if I would have waited and gone all in with 12k I would surely of had more than 1 caller. My view on short stack, shallow $$ final table T's is to isolate 1 player and go all in with 2nd or 3rd tier hands like AT or 77 ( these are good hands 7 handed)...need chips badly.

      Bill what are Freddies legendary 3 hands??? And my spelngs fin.. its jst shrt hnd.

      Tony D

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tony D
        4.Bill I disagree with folding 77 in this position and blind level
        remember the rounds are 15 mins and the blinds are going up about every 7 hands, (12k 4k next) if I would have waited and gone all in with 12k I would surely of had more than 1 caller. My view on short stack, shallow $$ final table T's is to isolate 1 player and go all in with 2nd or 3rd tier hands like AT or 77 ( these are good hands 7 handed)...need chips badly.

        Bill what are Freddies legendary 3 hands??? And my spelngs fin.. its jst shrt hnd.

        Tony D
        There are only three hands that Freddy has SAID he will raise with from the SB. I agree with him wholeheartedly, especially if BB has you outstacked. AA, KK and AKs.

        As to the 77. In the position you are in, I would like AT much more than 77. Again you are gonna get called by overcards so you are a SMALL favorite. I would just as soon wait to get in the money here. Then go for the win. To use your own arguement, even if you double up here, you cant make the blinds next round. I would go for the cash, then the win. :lol:

        Bill

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        • #5
          Bill

          Posted the sb 4k, had 12k in stack if I would have won that hand I would have 32k and been about 3rd stack at table and in good shape, nxt blind 12/8. Was going 4 the win in a small stakes Tourney...if it was a 1k entry T paying 15k for 5th I probably would have limped myself.

          Freddie The Rock?? AA, KK AK?? I don't believe that 1.... but then again freddie has great post flop play.

          Tony D

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