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  • kill me pls

    http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...933_DA24494BB4
    i dont want to live on this planet anymoar

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    **moved to more appropriate forum JWK24**
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    • #3
      Villain played his hand quite deceptively.

      I'd raise again pre though.

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      • #4
        Should have raised again preflop and put him under more pressure, and hopefully get all stacks in preflop.

        Just keep telling yourself in the long run if you get it all-in preflop and this happens then you will be amking money in the long run.

        Don't give villians the opportunity to draw.


        Cheers,

        Pullin1988
        Last edited by pullin1988; Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:57 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pullin1988 View Post
          Should have raised again preflop and put him under more pressure, and hopefully get all stacks in preflop.

          Just keep telling yourself in the long run if you get it all-in preflop and this happens then you will be amking money in the long run.

          Don't give villians the opportunity to draw.


          Cheers,

          Pullin1988
          what a stupid analyse u did... i played this perfectly... if i jam it preflop , he will probably fold and i wont get more money from him, im happy with his jam on turn, just unlucky with result .... and i didnt give him free card so i didnt gave him oportunity to draw... and actually he will win it more often with preflop allins then with this line, so ur analyse is complete wrong
          Last edited by GayLooser; Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:54 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pullin1988 View Post
            Should have raised again preflop and put him under more pressure, and hopefully get all stacks in preflop.
            I agree with pullin. I'm re-raising preflop to about $2.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GayLooser View Post
              what a stupid analyse u did... i played this perfectly... if i jam it preflop , he will probably fold and i wont get more money from him, im happy with his jam on turn, just unlucky with result .... and i didnt give him free card so i didnt gave him oportunity to draw... and actually he will win it more often with preflop allins then with this line, so ur analyse is complete wrong
              You didn't play it perfectly but that's not to say you played it badly either.

              You chose to let him set the price on seeing flop, turn and river. Yes, it was unfortunate that he got there, and it think I would probably scream if that happened to me.

              I stand by what I said in my earlier reply though. Raise again pre, doesn't have to be a big raise, just get more money in when you are ahead.

              If you have rads that he folds to another bet, ok, play it deceptively. I'm kind of assuming that given he 4betthat hand that he probably sticks around.

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              • #8
                Reraise to $1.35-$1.40 pre on this depth of money. Post flop play is fine.

                what a stupid analyse u did... i played this perfectly... if i jam it preflop , he will probably fold and i wont get more money from him
                pullin didn't say jam pre, he said reraise pre with hopes to get it all in, which I think is more +EV than flatting personally. If you're going to be rude and call someone's analysis stupid, you should probably take care to make sure you understand what they're saying first.
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                • #9
                  You dont have to take advice given but if someone takes the time to reply dont abuse them .
                  I for one wont be wasting my time with any advice,Im sure you dont need it as it seems you have all the answers anyway, until you sort out your comments ,not just here but in game chat and classroom.
                  Last edited by brettnz; Thu Oct 31, 2013, 12:19 AM. Reason: edit

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                  • #10
                    I was only trying to help. I'm learning myself, and so I respect other people's opinions on how they play. I like it when someone disagrees because it allows us to have a discussion about the hand, which in turn helps us to improve our game. I think that you need to understand that there are many ways to play a hand that are all +EV, your play maybe just one of the ways. It's good to know all the different ways to a play hands with +EV; however, I will not bother to offer you advice in the future because of your aggressive nature.

                    Question to you is this,

                    If my advice is terribad (which I don't think it is) then why don't you offer me constructive advice so that I can improve my game instead of being so rude?

                    Pullin
                    Last edited by pullin1988; Thu Oct 31, 2013, 01:15 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I thought of you when making this blog.......hiccup

                      http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/blogs/effsea/bad-beats

                      Cheers
                      Poker Rule #1....Never listen to me...hiccup

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GayLooser View Post
                        http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...933_DA24494BB4
                        i dont want to live on this planet anymoar

                        You have found a perfect villain to play against, so why don't you want to live on the planet anymore?

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                        • #13
                          Really a bad beat! Just like what i've stated in my blog "Great Aces Is Not Always Monster" "don’t always love pocket aces too much or they’ll kill you badly ( just a metaphor)".... “With Great aces you win a little or lose a lot”. Move on!..Next time, you will win a lot!umbup:

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                          • #14
                            Maybe this might help, hopefully (?)

                            Everybody might be recommending a re-raise pre-flop because the bb here made a cold 4-bet, and at 10nl and lower the vast majority of the time that'll tend to be from someone holding a really strong hand like AA, KK, AK, QQ, possibly AQs, who's most likely going to be willing to get 100bbs in pre-flop?

                            Like, absent a read that the villain might be doing this with a wider range, most of the time if you re-raise a cold 4-bet, most villains will call or shove, which is probably why everybody was recommending it? Because like what if the villain here was actually holding KK and the flop came like it did here with an A - that would give other villains the opportunity to check-fold and get away from the hand with most of their stack still intact, so like ... there's that other side to the coin?

                            Hopefully maybe this helps explain where people are coming from? And hopefully you'll make back that EV soon
                            Last edited by TrustySam; Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:36 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Oh wait! Just re-watched the hand and the first villain limped, so the bb was just making a squeeze, was he? D'oh!

                              Think I got confused because of the size - his 3-bet was 16.5bbs, which large, and almost at the point of being pot-committing. And he was making it into 2 people.

                              Hmmm ... well, although it wasn't a cold 4-bet, based on the sizing of the 3-bet ... the bb just looks so strong. So maybe the rationale from above still holds?

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