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  • Prolonged Downswing

    I love this subsection because I find being able to express one's frustration to be therapeutic. Like I guess other people prefer to stick to that 'right decision' line of coping, but personally I prefer to vent umbup: So anyways ... here's two hands that are completely emblematic of my 3 month long downswing. And it's across the board - not winning the majority of flips when it counts, and running under EV when it counts ... sigh ... Okay, I feel better Happy Family Day for those of you in Canada celebrating, and Happy President's Day for those of you in the U.S.!!
    Last edited by TrustySam; Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:10 PM.

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    I feel for you!!!!!

    I've been on a tilt for a week now. Seems like what ever I do it was the wroung move. I've lost the hand at the river I don't know how many times. Play all the very stroung hands and lose and fold all weak hands and wouldn't you know it, would have won.

    I'm just going to keep playing the I know and hope to get back to my winning ways.

    Good luck to you and mayby see you at a table.

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    • #3
      Hey Sam! If venting a bit can help to avoid tilt... go for it (trust me, I do it sometimes too). Those long downswings are not easy to cope with either, as I've had one last multiple months too. Hope the cards turn for you.umbup: John (JWK24)
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      • #4
        Originally posted by dopplerboyf5 View Post
        I feel for you!!!!! I've been on a tilt for a week now. Seems like what ever I do it was the wroung move. I've lost the hand at the river I don't know how many times. Play all the very stroung hands and lose and fold all weak hands and wouldn't you know it, would have won. I'm just going to keep playing the I know and hope to get back to my winning ways. Good luck to you and mayby see you at a table.
        Hi dopplerboyf5! Welcome to the forum. Good luck at the tables.umbup: John (JWK24)
        Last edited by JWK24; Tue Mar 06, 2012, 01:28 AM.
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        • #5
          Okay, yeah - thx doppler, jwk ... my luck is still horrible, but I feel better now umbup: I guess I just wanted to hear that it's happening/happened to others Welcome doppler ... nice going with the Open League there - wouldn't that be great if your run-good is all being stored up for the end of the month!! umbup:

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          • #6
            hey sam we ve all been there . it will get better then worse then better then worse . as long as the better gets better and the worse doesn t get worst we are good.
            gl y all
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            • #7
              Thx wetmoose umbup:

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              • #8
                The toughest thing about a downswing is not letting it change the way you play. You need a strong belief that you are playing correctly, and above all do NOT change the way you play.

                If you need to adjust your game, do it while you're on the upswing, it's much less damaging that way. Seriously, tho, Sam, you just need to focus on making the right decisions, after that, it's just the luck of the draw.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by joy7108 View Post
                  The toughest thing about a downswing is not letting it change the way you play. You need a strong belief that you are playing correctly, and above all do NOT change the way you play.

                  If you need to adjust your game, do it while you're on the upswing, it's much less damaging that way. Seriously, tho, Sam, you just need to focus on making the right decisions, after that, it's just the luck of the draw.

                  I didn't think you'd come in here, since you seem so bothered by bad beats

                  I think some of us like to just vent and it doesn't mean we're tilted or changing our game or thinking we haven't made good decisions. Like there's always opportunities to grow, and so everybody should always be reviewing hands and looking for opportunities to grow I think ...

                  Sam

                  Last edited by TrustySam; Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:46 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Good venting sam, anything to take your mind of the game for a while I find works. good luck hope it improves for you.

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                    • #11
                      Hi Holdemace

                      I know you and Joy have had some words in the past with regards to how best to handle bad beats, so maybe there's some unspoken philosophical differences that might be interesting to explore ... like, what's the optimal way of dealing with variance sort of a deal - is there only one way, or might it depend on the person, or might it depend on the downswing and how long and how severe?

                      I guess my philosophy is that trying to learn to deal with variance is something that comes along with learning poker, along with money management. Like maybe 'learning to play poker' might really involve:

                      1. Learning the technical aspects of the game,
                      2. Learning bankroll management/profitability, and
                      3. Learning to handle variance and best handle tilt?

                      And so those three areas might perhaps be areas where there's always room for growth?

                      I don't know ... I just know that in life I've found it works best for me to find a constructive way to handle negative emotions. Like on the one hand I guess I've found that it's oftentimes futile to try and 'will' feelings you don't think are 'appropriate' away, because they'll have a habit of coming out anyways, and sometimes it'll be in a less than productive fashion? And on the other hand I guess I've found that sometimes if you aren't careful about limiting the self-pity etc there's always a danger of winding up in a rut, and so it's important to try and find lessons to be learned as we go maybe?

                      Like I guess maybe I'm trying to find the right balance with poker ... as in life (lol )?

                      It can be tricky, eh? Easy to start 'tilting' too much in one direction, or overcompensate and stuff I guess? Work in progress for us all I think ... I don't know

                      Hope everything's going well at the tables for everybody!!

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                      • #12
                        First hand you overplayed, you have about 40bb theres no need to get all the money in with a hand that is at best a coin flip and most of the time crushed by a range of 66+. Second one, is better for you than a flip you're a decent favorite to win about 75%+ of the time, but he has to call here as you are so short and likely to ship a wide range with 12bb. I feel for you on the downswing tho bro! Keep your head upumbup:
                        Last edited by Acombfosho; Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:08 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Thx!! umbup: And welcome, welcome!! I don't know how to handle people that keep shoving every hand. I guess they just wore me down, and I figured 55 ought to be decent against their range. Although now that you mention it, maybe if I had been more aware, I'd have noticed that I had plenty of time and chips to wait for an even better hand to make a call with. That's a great point - thx for pointing that out umbup: Usually I try to wait to have like 4/5 the chips before I'll call an all-in from the other person ... not sure how I managed to forget that
                          Last edited by TrustySam; Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:13 PM. Reason: oops

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                          • #14
                            welcome acomb always nice to see new postersumbup:

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                              Hi Acombfosho! Welcome to the forum. Here's a link that will help to get you started taking advantage of everything that PSO has to offer. Good luck at the tables.umbup: John (JWK24)
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