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i just cant understand this

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    *********** # 1 **************PokerStars Game #72633405082: Tournament #488358310, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/12/23 7:48:17 ETTable '488358310 3' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: holdemace486 (1465 in chips) Seat 2: gagarin522 (4690 in chips) Seat 3: VladVegas (1045 in chips) Seat 4: youngoak2 (1105 in chips) Seat 5: LIV11 (3910 in chips) Seat 6: SHAYTANAT (1080 in chips) Seat 7: lebenslust1 (2240 in chips) is sitting outSeat 8: KhaoZMaster (1530 in chips) Seat 9: jsantost1 (1125 in chips) LIV11: posts small blind 15SHAYTANAT: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to holdemace486 [As Ah]lebenslust1: folds KhaoZMaster: folds jsantost1: folds holdemace486: raises 90 to 120gagarin522: calls 120VladVegas: folds youngoak2: folds LIV11: calls 105SHAYTANAT: folds *** FLOP *** [6h 5d Js]LIV11: bets 180holdemace486: raises 330 to 510gagarin522: raises 4060 to 4570 and is all-inLIV11: folds holdemace486: calls 835 and is all-inUncalled bet (3225) returned to gagarin522*** TURN *** [6h 5d Js] [7s]*** RIVER *** [6h 5d Js 7s] [9s]*** SHOW DOWN ***holdemace486: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)gagarin522: shows [8s 8d] (a straight, Five to Nine)gagarin522 collected 3260 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 3260 | Rake 0 Board [6h 5d Js 7s 9s]Seat 1: holdemace486 showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of AcesSeat 2: gagarin522 showed [8s 8d] and won (3260) with a straight, Five to NineSeat 3: VladVegas folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: youngoak2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: LIV11 (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: SHAYTANAT (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: lebenslust1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: KhaoZMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: jsantost1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    hi all couldnt generate hand with tools strangely enough as yet again having a high volume of bad beats grrrr,right anyway to the point,and i dont care what you say this just isnt right all the time it seems to happen.....i could post you hundreds of these type hands i get bad beat with, my percentages just dont seem to hold up,you can see from my opr im up in the rankings since i started to play my game and ignore this type beat,stoped tilting and still plus poi on my 8 dollers,so my question why does this always seem to happen to me and how did i play this hand wrong was text book play in my opinion,like most of my plays are,i read the situation perfect yet again but well you can see it....

  • #2
    From what I can read of the hand, you played it fine. Villain shoved with mid pair and a runner runner str8 draw, which is pretty silly. You were right to call, he just got lucky,

    Your questions can be answered by a famous bumper sticker.

    "Shit happens"

    It's poker. Get used to it
    Last edited by Tomcrockpot; Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:46 PM.


    • #3
      ty tom

      i know ye the bumper sticker great explanation like it,but i do get a lot of this happening and cant find the reason why im thinking maybe they use software or just my pic and they dont beleive and get lucky


      • #4

        Quintuple Bracelet Winner


        • #5
          Yeah dude if your going to keep track of all your bad beats, you will be quickly overwhelmed. I had my own bad beat thread once while I was 9 tabling micro stakes cash tables. I had to give up after a few days because I couldn't keep up posting them all. Talking like 4-5 100% certified bad beats every night (playing 3-4 hours).

          It is variance. You don't understand what's happening because you don't understand variance. There is a very good reason why bankroll management is important and why you need 20-100 buyins for various game types. It is because of variance! A downswing in bad luck could cause your bankroll to plummet 5-10 buyins even if your a profitable player.


          • #6
            cheers rocka

            yea i no m8t do understand variance,its not wat i was saying,put it for analysis and now it been moved,big question to me why players are callling not beleiving me im thinking now my picture maybe.


            • #7
              It happens to everyone... because variance has no prejudice.

              A lot of bad beats are from bad players playing there weak hands too far. This creates an opportunity for them to get really lucky once and a while. Play better players if you don't want to get insane bad beats as often... not that I recommend doing so.


              • #8
                cheers does better players mean higher stakes?


                • #9
                  no not at all


                  • #10
                    A lot of players will open shove mid pairs and sometimes any pocket pair. Is it a good play? Probably not but a lot of people will still do it anyway. Please believe me, you WANT players shoving when you have them dominated as this WILL pay off in the long run. Take it from someone who has multiple concussions from banging my head into a wall... if you play to win every pot or every tourney you will quickly lose interest in the game. Instead try and play to make the correct decision every time and then whatever happens, happens. This will lead to you becoming a winning player over time. Also, I did notice in a lot of your posts you seem to think you have the game figured out. Well, you may have the math side figured out but that is a tiny part of poker. Daniel Negreanu said he had to change and adapt his game a couple of years ago to become relevant again. If a top 10 player of all time hasn't gotten the game completely figured out there is plenty left for you and I to learn. Merry Christmas and don't give up. See you out there.
                    Last edited by FLsnookman; Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:09 PM. Reason: meh
                    Bracelet Winner


                    • #11
                      thx snook and all merry xmas



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