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  • KhoalWhynot
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    Ready to quit

    This site is really starting to get on my nerves to the point where in breaking things now, i have studied for over a month already and still am through the pokerschool training, no matter what advice i take from there no matter what i do i always lose. Ive lost over 100$ that i have deposited and am sitting and 0.00 now. I dont understand how this site works but no matter what i have in my hand im always losing i havent won with pocket aces yet and have had it 6 times already, everytime i play a monster hand it always loses to the underdog hand like 4 9 or something stupid like that. I dont even understand how people can go all in with hands like that and for me to lose to them with pocket As or Ks or AK or AQ every single time is starting to make me get anger issues. Can someone please tell me this site is rigged so i know im not going crazy because this site definatley has something against me or something. I just want to be able to play cash games and cant even because i have 0 balance and cant even get a placement in one game i play either freeroll tournaments or the .10 cent tickets i get from scratch and match like once a month. Can someone help me please this isnt good for my health to be constanstley fuming like this but theres no way around it.

  • rolo834
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    yeah I agree with effsea totally......sites dont single individuals out and think right I will rig it against them (take so much time plus no idea how they would do it if it was even worth it) ...they wouldnt risk losing their licence think about in as they rake or tournament fee in lots every single day

    Poker is unique its not like blackjack or roulette......your not trying to bea tthe house or casino youru tryin to beat the players and the rake/fee (ok thsi part is kinda the casino but its fixed and you should try to play in low rake games)

    Imagine a tournament where the cost was $10 but the total cost was $15 so the tour fee was $5 that would mean you have to be over 50% better than anyone else to make a profit

    i dont doubt that sometimes youve been unlucky (who hasnt wel maybe Fedor but yesterday my TT ran into 55 and I won now im only supposed to win 4 out of 5 times there not 5 out of 5

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  • rolo834
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    some stuff i forgot that might be helpful

    Imagine your trying to learn how to drive a car...some of this may seem funny or silly but bear with me

    So lets say your an expert at changing gears.......but if you dont know how to start the engine or put petrol in you wont get very far

    Next lets say you can drive in all weather conditions and at night ...but if you dont know how to switch the windscreen wipers on you'll be in big trouble in a bad storm

    Point im trying to make is at first you have so so much to learn (everyone does at first) and they are all interelated so until youve gained a lot of experience and your studies are starting to sink in you will crash and burn or make mistakes....see I find it hard learning but if it was easy everyone would be a professional

    After a while you may know 50% very well but you can still make big mistakes but you now have an idea of your strengths and weaknesses and where you can improve on the most

    When first starting out everything is nearly a problem well you may be blessed with say patience so you have some skills however most also have some weaknesses in built into them BUT IF YOUR 98% BAD AT THE START ITS GREAT AS YOU CAN IMPROVE SO MUCH put it in capitals to highlight it wasnt shouting

    Theres always something to learn and improve upon.....

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  • effsea
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    Blaming things like bad luck etc. for you're failure is You're Biggest Issue!




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  • rolo834
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    glad you won the 25c its not a lot but its better than nothing im not a big fan of turbos but I think I maybe getting better ......someone in the world is the most unluckiest player ever but doubtt its you....see luck or variance comes in waves but in the long run it all evens out(the long run is 1000's of hands)

    If you doubt this toss a coin 100 times and it will very nearly come out 50/50 heads n tails ...but after 10 tosses it could be 3/7 or 7/3 or well anything

    now dont play scared (this is what I did) if you lose 25c your whole bankroll it may seem like the end of the world lol but in reality its not

    yeah John the one i got in top20 alate reg and rebuy period was an hour.in tonights i didnt bother rebuying back in as was only 1 minute left and I would have restarted in around 90th

    Is there some maths that you can use to say whether its worth rebuying back in?

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  • JWK24
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    edpokernut

    IMO, if you're not willing to rebuy as needed and the add-on is MANDATORY, then you really shouldn't be in it. You're lucky in these, as there's only 15 min you have to survive to get the add-on... in the ones I played, you had to last an hour after reg ended.

    With those numbers, I'm not doing anything other than what my strategy was in them.. makes these way +EV.

    John (JWK24)

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  • edpokernut
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    Originally posted by JWK24 View Post

    edpokernut

    In that type of tourney, not sure it's the best route, but I try to get in late, then rebuy as few times as I needed to get to the add-on (play the real hands and muck the trash ones). One of the US facing sites used to run some tourneys like this and I played a number of them.

    John (JWK24)
    I don't see any completed 10 seat freebuys in the lobby right now, but looking at the numbers from the last Freebuy completed that awarded (3) $5.50 seats : 3789 players, 209 rebuys, and only 34 add-ons. I think your strategy for this works best for this type of trny.

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  • JWK24
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    Originally posted by edpokernut View Post
    I was checking out this trny and these Freebuy Hyper Freerolls are insane. 1k starting chips. 3 minute blinds! Level 4 (starts at the 10th minute) blinds are already 100/200/20; Level 5 15/300/30; But even more funny is that it has late registration for 30 minutes, so you can register and your first hand is at 500/1000/100 lolol. No wonder in the early going just about everyone's range in these are any two cards. And then even if you survive the first thirty minutes (or late register at the last minute), the add-on for .11c is a HUGE 50k chips at the 45th minute when the rebuy ends, which you really must buy to have a chance to win a $2.20 ticket. Players without any $ are no doubt just trying to accumulate chips super fast before the other players do their add-on for 50k in chips.
    edpokernut

    In that type of tourney, not sure it's the best route, but I try to get in late, then rebuy as few times as I needed to get to the add-on (play the real hands and muck the trash ones). One of the US facing sites used to run some tourneys like this and I played a number of them.

    John (JWK24)

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  • edpokernut
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    I was checking out this trny and these Freebuy Hyper Freerolls are insane. 1k starting chips. 3 minute blinds! Level 4 (starts at the 10th minute) blinds are already 100/200/20; Level 5 15/300/30; But even more funny is that it has late registration for 30 minutes, so you can register and your first hand is at 500/1000/100 lolol. No wonder in the early going just about everyone's range in these are any two cards. And then even if you survive the first thirty minutes (or late register at the last minute), the add-on for .11c is a HUGE 50k chips at the 45th minute when the rebuy ends, which you really must buy to have a chance to win a $2.20 ticket. Players without any $ are no doubt just trying to accumulate chips super fast before the other players do their add-on for 50k in chips.

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  • Taurus221
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    Vs T4s he have 66% vs that range he have ~60%. I think it's fair enough because he calls in 49%. He saw that guy is a triangle donkey,so i don't get why you are so tight in here...

    Simulated it(incl one pre limp): This is what i get vs that donkey,who's lowest shove hand is T4s.



    But to be fair,he saw only a K2o earlier,and that's a bit tighter hand than a T4s (if K2o is the lowest he still get more than 2K chip on long term).

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  • JWK24
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    if AA is played correctly, they lose between 15-20% of the time.. if they're misplayed, they'll lose at a much higher rate.

    John (JWK24)

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  • KhoalWhynot
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    Okay guess i just gotta study study but also btw just lost another tournament with pockets As, think ive lost 10 times with them now lol

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  • JWK24
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    Originally posted by KhoalWhynot View Post

    It was the fact that i have seen him bluff earlier on and went all in more than once so once i had a hand like that i figured i could catch a lucky break either high straight or flush or pair but its just a freeroll, wouldnt have made that call in a money game but it eas just the fact of how lucky he got there honestly.
    btw got a placement in a freeroll earlier won .25 so hoping thats a start wish mr luck
    KhoalWhynot

    It doesn't matter though if we saw them bluff.. when we look at the opp's full range (and I adjusted it in the calculator to be a LOT wider than they should be), we're mathematically behind and in all of these spots, the math is what drives everything... if the math says we gain chips, we call, if it says we lose chips, we fold. We do NOT play hands to try and get lucky... that's what losing fish do. If you want to be a winning player (only about 10% of players are winning players), then you cannot ever make plays by chance... the math works, or it doesn't. Take every game seriously, regardless if it's a freeroll or a $1k buy-in. I'm trying to win any tourney I play, from an online freeroll, to a WSOP bracelet event. You need to have that attitude to be a winner.

    I've been studying these spots and have run tens of thousands (if not 6 figures of hands) thru equity calculators over the years... the only way to learn these spots is by going thru them over and over, because if we change any stack's position at the table, anyone's stack sizes, the range of hands we can play is drastically different.
    Prime example is the KQs hand.. if we're in the BB, it's a play, if we're SB or earlier, it's a fold.

    I built my bankroll up from zero and did not start playing cash tourneys until I had $25, then started in the quarter 45-man sng's, as I had the proper 100 buy-ins in bankroll, to play them. It took me four years to get it from $0 to $1k, and got it over $10k at the beginning of 2018. You will hit some VERY rough stretches, especially at the beginning, but if you put the time in to study (at least 2 hrs of study and review for every 1 hr of play), it CAN be done.. I'M PROOF OF IT!

    John (JWK24)

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  • KhoalWhynot
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    Originally posted by rolo834 View Post
    hmm you asked for help now you want thread deteted ......this wont be a long post

    your playing a huge pot calling 34bb .......its a bit like your making the whole torunament into 1 hand.........if you played say 6 hands then some on average you win and some you lose........not fully analysed the hand in question but leanign towards a fold

    let me ask you this what equity does KQs have against T4s ?...really you should be up against a whole range but lets assume we saw his cards and we somehow knew he held T4s

    on a brighter note just satty into SCOOP yayyyy wil play ion 24th or 26th probably 26th as 24th is zoom

    ps op you should reread eevrything everyone said and ask questions not just give up plus do some more study

    pps if donna is readind this im sorry i knocked you out last 2 tournies...2nd one i had huge stack so could gamble...its nothing personal was on a heater at the time
    Hey rolo thanks for everything you have been posting i already replied to jwk but i have been taking some advice and actually placed in a freeroll today winning .25 i know its not alot but its a start, but also forgot to mention got 9th place in the league game yesterday aswell so thag bumped me up into 6th on the leaderboard so maybe this advice is actually helping and thing might look brighter.
    thanks again rolo and btw sounds like you should be taking it a bit easier on donna might be going through a faze like me right now anyways have a good day

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  • KhoalWhynot
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    Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
    Taurus221

    First thing I did was to adjust it to crazy ranges and KQs is still a fold. I wasn't expecting T4s, but did have down thru T8s. If that was a league game, instead, and adjusted the ranges that way, I'd want JJ+ AK+ to call.

    John (JWK24)

    P.S. My first instinct said it was close and would be a 50-50 call, but it wasn't that close.
    It was the fact that i have seen him bluff earlier on and went all in more than once so once i had a hand like that i figured i could catch a lucky break either high straight or flush or pair but its just a freeroll, wouldnt have made that call in a money game but it eas just the fact of how lucky he got there honestly.
    btw got a placement in a freeroll earlier won .25 so hoping thats a start wish mr luck

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