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  • #46
    Freeroll or super turbo mtts i think call is fine here. But normal mtts i thinked i try fold, this is the best move. I only call 1010++ and AQs+.

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    • #47
      hmm you asked for help now you want thread deteted ......this wont be a long post

      your playing a huge pot calling 34bb .......its a bit like your making the whole torunament into 1 hand.........if you played say 6 hands then some on average you win and some you lose........not fully analysed the hand in question but leanign towards a fold

      let me ask you this what equity does KQs have against T4s ?...really you should be up against a whole range but lets assume we saw his cards and we somehow knew he held T4s

      on a brighter note just satty into SCOOP yayyyy wil play ion 24th or 26th probably 26th as 24th is zoom

      ps op you should reread eevrything everyone said and ask questions not just give up plus do some more study

      pps if donna is readind this im sorry i knocked you out last 2 tournies...2nd one i had huge stack so could gamble...its nothing personal was on a heater at the time
      Last edited by rolo834; Sat May 18, 2019, 12:31 AM. Reason: added a question

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      • #48
        Originally posted by JWK24 View Post
        Taurus221

        First thing I did was to adjust it to crazy ranges and KQs is still a fold. I wasn't expecting T4s, but did have down thru T8s. If that was a league game, instead, and adjusted the ranges that way, I'd want JJ+ AK+ to call.

        John (JWK24)

        P.S. My first instinct said it was close and would be a 50-50 call, but it wasn't that close.
        It was the fact that i have seen him bluff earlier on and went all in more than once so once i had a hand like that i figured i could catch a lucky break either high straight or flush or pair but its just a freeroll, wouldnt have made that call in a money game but it eas just the fact of how lucky he got there honestly.
        btw got a placement in a freeroll earlier won .25 so hoping thats a start wish mr luck

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rolo834 View Post
          hmm you asked for help now you want thread deteted ......this wont be a long post

          your playing a huge pot calling 34bb .......its a bit like your making the whole torunament into 1 hand.........if you played say 6 hands then some on average you win and some you lose........not fully analysed the hand in question but leanign towards a fold

          let me ask you this what equity does KQs have against T4s ?...really you should be up against a whole range but lets assume we saw his cards and we somehow knew he held T4s

          on a brighter note just satty into SCOOP yayyyy wil play ion 24th or 26th probably 26th as 24th is zoom

          ps op you should reread eevrything everyone said and ask questions not just give up plus do some more study

          pps if donna is readind this im sorry i knocked you out last 2 tournies...2nd one i had huge stack so could gamble...its nothing personal was on a heater at the time
          Hey rolo thanks for everything you have been posting i already replied to jwk but i have been taking some advice and actually placed in a freeroll today winning .25 i know its not alot but its a start, but also forgot to mention got 9th place in the league game yesterday aswell so thag bumped me up into 6th on the leaderboard so maybe this advice is actually helping and thing might look brighter.
          thanks again rolo and btw sounds like you should be taking it a bit easier on donna might be going through a faze like me right now anyways have a good day

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          • #50
            Originally posted by KhoalWhynot View Post

            It was the fact that i have seen him bluff earlier on and went all in more than once so once i had a hand like that i figured i could catch a lucky break either high straight or flush or pair but its just a freeroll, wouldnt have made that call in a money game but it eas just the fact of how lucky he got there honestly.
            btw got a placement in a freeroll earlier won .25 so hoping thats a start wish mr luck
            KhoalWhynot

            It doesn't matter though if we saw them bluff.. when we look at the opp's full range (and I adjusted it in the calculator to be a LOT wider than they should be), we're mathematically behind and in all of these spots, the math is what drives everything... if the math says we gain chips, we call, if it says we lose chips, we fold. We do NOT play hands to try and get lucky... that's what losing fish do. If you want to be a winning player (only about 10% of players are winning players), then you cannot ever make plays by chance... the math works, or it doesn't. Take every game seriously, regardless if it's a freeroll or a $1k buy-in. I'm trying to win any tourney I play, from an online freeroll, to a WSOP bracelet event. You need to have that attitude to be a winner.

            I've been studying these spots and have run tens of thousands (if not 6 figures of hands) thru equity calculators over the years... the only way to learn these spots is by going thru them over and over, because if we change any stack's position at the table, anyone's stack sizes, the range of hands we can play is drastically different.
            Prime example is the KQs hand.. if we're in the BB, it's a play, if we're SB or earlier, it's a fold.

            I built my bankroll up from zero and did not start playing cash tourneys until I had $25, then started in the quarter 45-man sng's, as I had the proper 100 buy-ins in bankroll, to play them. It took me four years to get it from $0 to $1k, and got it over $10k at the beginning of 2018. You will hit some VERY rough stretches, especially at the beginning, but if you put the time in to study (at least 2 hrs of study and review for every 1 hr of play), it CAN be done.. I'M PROOF OF IT!

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            • #51
              Okay guess i just gotta study study but also btw just lost another tournament with pockets As, think ive lost 10 times with them now lol

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              • #52
                if AA is played correctly, they lose between 15-20% of the time.. if they're misplayed, they'll lose at a much higher rate.

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                • #53
                  Vs T4s he have 66% vs that range he have ~60%. I think it's fair enough because he calls in 49%. He saw that guy is a triangle donkey,so i don't get why you are so tight in here...

                  Simulated it(incl one pre limp): This is what i get vs that donkey,who's lowest shove hand is T4s.



                  But to be fair,he saw only a K2o earlier,and that's a bit tighter hand than a T4s (if K2o is the lowest he still get more than 2K chip on long term).

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                  • #54
                    I was checking out this trny and these Freebuy Hyper Freerolls are insane. 1k starting chips. 3 minute blinds! Level 4 (starts at the 10th minute) blinds are already 100/200/20; Level 5 15/300/30; But even more funny is that it has late registration for 30 minutes, so you can register and your first hand is at 500/1000/100 lolol. No wonder in the early going just about everyone's range in these are any two cards. And then even if you survive the first thirty minutes (or late register at the last minute), the add-on for .11c is a HUGE 50k chips at the 45th minute when the rebuy ends, which you really must buy to have a chance to win a $2.20 ticket. Players without any $ are no doubt just trying to accumulate chips super fast before the other players do their add-on for 50k in chips.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by edpokernut View Post
                      I was checking out this trny and these Freebuy Hyper Freerolls are insane. 1k starting chips. 3 minute blinds! Level 4 (starts at the 10th minute) blinds are already 100/200/20; Level 5 15/300/30; But even more funny is that it has late registration for 30 minutes, so you can register and your first hand is at 500/1000/100 lolol. No wonder in the early going just about everyone's range in these are any two cards. And then even if you survive the first thirty minutes (or late register at the last minute), the add-on for .11c is a HUGE 50k chips at the 45th minute when the rebuy ends, which you really must buy to have a chance to win a $2.20 ticket. Players without any $ are no doubt just trying to accumulate chips super fast before the other players do their add-on for 50k in chips.
                      edpokernut

                      In that type of tourney, not sure it's the best route, but I try to get in late, then rebuy as few times as I needed to get to the add-on (play the real hands and muck the trash ones). One of the US facing sites used to run some tourneys like this and I played a number of them.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JWK24 View Post

                        edpokernut

                        In that type of tourney, not sure it's the best route, but I try to get in late, then rebuy as few times as I needed to get to the add-on (play the real hands and muck the trash ones). One of the US facing sites used to run some tourneys like this and I played a number of them.

                        John (JWK24)
                        I don't see any completed 10 seat freebuys in the lobby right now, but looking at the numbers from the last Freebuy completed that awarded (3) $5.50 seats : 3789 players, 209 rebuys, and only 34 add-ons. I think your strategy for this works best for this type of trny.

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                        • #57
                          edpokernut

                          IMO, if you're not willing to rebuy as needed and the add-on is MANDATORY, then you really shouldn't be in it. You're lucky in these, as there's only 15 min you have to survive to get the add-on... in the ones I played, you had to last an hour after reg ended.

                          With those numbers, I'm not doing anything other than what my strategy was in them.. makes these way +EV.

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                          • #58
                            glad you won the 25c its not a lot but its better than nothing im not a big fan of turbos but I think I maybe getting better ......someone in the world is the most unluckiest player ever but doubtt its you....see luck or variance comes in waves but in the long run it all evens out(the long run is 1000's of hands)

                            If you doubt this toss a coin 100 times and it will very nearly come out 50/50 heads n tails ...but after 10 tosses it could be 3/7 or 7/3 or well anything

                            now dont play scared (this is what I did) if you lose 25c your whole bankroll it may seem like the end of the world lol but in reality its not

                            yeah John the one i got in top20 alate reg and rebuy period was an hour.in tonights i didnt bother rebuying back in as was only 1 minute left and I would have restarted in around 90th

                            Is there some maths that you can use to say whether its worth rebuying back in?

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                            • #59
                              Blaming things like bad luck etc. for you're failure is You're Biggest Issue!




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                              • #60
                                some stuff i forgot that might be helpful

                                Imagine your trying to learn how to drive a car...some of this may seem funny or silly but bear with me

                                So lets say your an expert at changing gears.......but if you dont know how to start the engine or put petrol in you wont get very far

                                Next lets say you can drive in all weather conditions and at night ...but if you dont know how to switch the windscreen wipers on you'll be in big trouble in a bad storm

                                Point im trying to make is at first you have so so much to learn (everyone does at first) and they are all interelated so until youve gained a lot of experience and your studies are starting to sink in you will crash and burn or make mistakes....see I find it hard learning but if it was easy everyone would be a professional

                                After a while you may know 50% very well but you can still make big mistakes but you now have an idea of your strengths and weaknesses and where you can improve on the most

                                When first starting out everything is nearly a problem well you may be blessed with say patience so you have some skills however most also have some weaknesses in built into them BUT IF YOUR 98% BAD AT THE START ITS GREAT AS YOU CAN IMPROVE SO MUCH put it in capitals to highlight it wasnt shouting

                                Theres always something to learn and improve upon.....

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