well I made the finale table tonight what a great game till then yes to all you that dont think they are there ( donk hand players) they make it there and still play those hands i finished 6th my ace queen off I rraised 5 times the blind and wouldnt ya know it a 7 4 off calls and beats me out so they are still around at that stage of the game i have noted him and will seek my revenge on his poor play lol but other than him it was a great game meet some great players still having fun so i placed in the money in both the napl rookie and the pso game moving on up gl everyone and remember its a social game i'll be friendly but i want your chips lol