So the big debate is do you call a large bet when you have large pot odds  with anything like 2,3 off or do you know the "math" of your winning odds and let it go, some other things factor in and we can discuss that if anyone cares, but how many players know their winning odds ? hmmm bet you would be suprised how many don't and make the wrong decision, pot odds are easy, winning odds are a totaly diferent thing and they weigh in as much, if not more than pot odds